Update Campaign #10 Nature has been released

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whoa your turning into Jefe ahahaha

 

What wasn't said is that you're actually doing something right now opposed to nothing. Although I would love a difficulty spike that isn't judged off completion rate as that doesn't represent tracks difficulty properly

 

yes

 

Ok, I just messaged you.

 

I suggest this site's admins quit attempting to profit from sh*tty ideas and marketing towards twelve year olds who only want a f*cking 'hold up' or 'pixel art like and sub'.

I only visit here to post my tracks because this whole site is a catastrophe. We all know that this game only took off in the first place due to its creativity and simplicity, and you're spoiling it with the horrible marketing and childish features. Sure, you can make an extra buck trying to get little kids to buy sh*t and play stupid tracks, but you're only adding fuel to the fire that is the death of this game and it's community.

As a long time member of this community, I agree with Stig in that you guys should listen to the members that make this game what it is. The campaigns, 'pro' versions, ridiculous marketing and coins don't make this game what it is, it's the great authors that do. No wonder every skilled user took off to BHR and only posts here to get publicity for their hard work.

It sickens me to see what Kano has done to Free Rider 2. I miss the days when .me and CR admins actually listened to their communities.
*sigh*

 

thank you for sharing your knowledge

 

you make some valid points. I agree that FRHD does have to market better toward BHR authors/players
however, I think you're undermining FRHD
some very good authors and players have come out of this game (e.g: CHOLO jhayde4564 tetrationiscool Silver_bird7 among many, many others ), you can't say that this game is trash when people like this play it
BUT:
you can consider my point next to invalid as I don't play BHR, FR3, .me, and FR2, so I can't speak for those games, but I still think you're very much undermining this game
I do very much respect your opinion though as you are a very legitimate creator

 

Eric
I'm going to leave out quotes for this, because that will make my reply seem more messy when i type:

If you're trying to convince me that you didn't take the easy way out, that is completely false, atleast by a players perspective. Basing your campaign tracks on completion rate is obviously a total failure. How many who completes a track, in the 20%'s says little to nothing at all about the difficulty. People will automaticly spend far less time on a track in which they are not amused with (i.o. sh*t, easy, too lightly detailed or even too hard, last one because theyve been trained w/ hold up campaign tracks). If they die, they will most likely go on to the next one. Which is impossible in the campaigns. And so makes people try harder. If you had a look at the completion rates of any of your previous campaign tracks before you posted them, and to now, I guarantee you, they will have gone up much, close(r) to 100%.
People WILL spend more time playing a track of which they find impressive, especially when it comes to detail. This also goes for tracks, in which they have to complete to progress further.
This is where my candy crush comparement comes in. Do you think it would be as successful as it is today, if any of the levels could be completed in one try? Most likely NOT. Because its not addictive being able to complete anything with little to no effort.

Why I personally hate the layout/editor is something I'll leave out, because it will increase your feeling of being offended, and result in you becoming more defensive, rather than actually considering what I have to say. They are also my personal opinions, and I know most people have different things that make them less satisfied with the layout/editor. Not saying there aren't people who are satsified with it, but they probably never experienced Canvas Rider, and Maxime's dedication to improving it.

And I literally laughed at your reason as to why you took over this game. It made no sense at all. It is obvious that you saw a great potential of income, that you were missing out on. Pretending anything less is as transparent af.
And it's not about the quantity of your posts here that shows whether you are dedicated to the game or not, it's what you choose to do. The results have been utterly dissapointing. And most ideas that not only i have recognized as great, have been neglected, because you refuse to alter the game too much because of A) it's possibly not worth your time vs income, or B)you're afraid of altering the game too much, in case you're gonna reduce popularity=income.
And mentioning cheap shots, you know as hell i dont support in-app purchases, and that it is not anything i want. but you obviously want people to buy coins, with real life money, so it is a fair assumption of me, to think that this is a way you'll want to go. you even managed to turn it against me, to make it appear as it was me who wanted that, lol. nice one though.

your reply was defensive piss, and proves the fact that you don't listen unless you want to, and you will go to any extent of defending your capitalistic intentions. which is okay, but its starting to affect the game big time. Grab your balls, put them back into your trousers, and accept the criticism, even if its harsh. don't tell me you're gonna take it into account, but instead, try to actually take it into account for once.

Edit; the support I'm getting, should be a good pointer to whether this is something to go defensive about, or to actually commit yourself to a new perspective when it comes to further development.

 

Those players likely would've come out of it regardless of whether or not we marketed it toward a younger age group. I just think that it's a bit of a turn off to people who haven't played the game before / are great at,twists as it's not really the greatest place for appreciation of great tracks. Also, the editor is now sh*t and nobody new to the game would ever give it a chance. Unless you've been here for a while or are younger, you're likely not gonna find this place appealing, therefore driving this game further into the grave. We need to promote it's creative aspect to draw in better and more talented users. Tracks nowadays have become somewhat tasteless unless it's creator had an idea of what this game used to be like.

 

So much this. The editor and community is a matter of opinion, but you're basically making it harder for good users to get their work noticed, and promoting a lower standard where the tracks are simply easy and only designed for completion.

 

Example: I take a look in the newest section and all I see are scribble tracks. Then I take a look at the hot section and the top track is a 5 second track that requires no skill.
I look at trending and maybe there is one good track on page one.


This has got to improve.

 

well i mean... why do you think he chose the less quality ones

edit: Stig you have a good point with the completion rate being much lower on non-campaign tracks. If people spent a little more effort on some tracks, the completion rate would be much, much higher. You also have to take the perspective of people who haven't had 10 years of experience with this game. I'm not saying I'm happy with the nature campaign.
My honest opinion: The campaigns should be difficult with better rewards. Maybe a custom helmet/gloves or w/e for beating them that can only be acquired this way. A cool one too. I don't see why this isn't a thing, honestly. The campaigns may be difficult for the average 10 year old, but who cares? I don't think the difficulty of the campaign is going to make someone quit the game. In fact, it seems as though the easiness of the campaign is causing people to want to quit. Maybe people will spend hours on a single track, but some of these tracks deserve the attention.

 

Another idea:
http://www.freeriderhd.com/t/128626-super-mario-bros-1-gc
http://www.freeriderhd.com/t/161980-super-mario-bros-2
These two tracks are awesomely done. The completion rates are 0.01 and 0.00. Why not have different "bonus campaigns" that if you complete, you either get a massive amount of coins, or in this case, a mario hat (copyright problems, maybe..)?
But yeah the campaigns are way too easy and the only incentive to beat them currently is to get rid of the little red circle with the exclamation mark on the left side of my screen.

 

Bhr is the only one of the four that is still existing/in use.

Out of "good users" on frhd, there's a few but nothing compared to the ole route but that's probably experience talking

 

You guys forget that you aren't the only ones representing the community. The vast majority of players aren't as talented as some of you guys, yet most of you act like everything needs to be done to your own personal standards. Drop the egos and play the game.