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Discussion in 'Races' started by mR..A, Oct 31, 2016.

  1. Delay

    Delay Member

    Delay is always the best :cool:
    hype for r3 stream
     
  2. ShamatoZ

    ShamatoZ Forum Legend Team Balloon Official Author

    also don't forget to not do it first try as well :rofl:
    will be waiting
     
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  3. Mitsera

    Mitsera Well-Known Member Official Author

    u8ybmetipoc,pæsø
     
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  4. Coated_Badger

    Coated_Badger Coager Elite Author Team Truck Official Author

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    Jumping on this post since it's actually an interesting glitch that would make for cool ghosts/ vehicle ghosts.

    Gonna quickly point out for those that don't know, spirits is my alt and all the tracks utilizing the vehicle glitch there were created by me. To my knowledge there's only 3 decent tracks that the glitch can unintentionally be abused in order to get a better time. almost all others are made with the intention of using the glitch in order for the track to be completed.
    The tracks I've seen it unintentionally used in are:
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/533480-difficult - This is, from what I can tell, the first track where the glitch was ever used to get a leader board time. first done by clockwe2 who told no one. then re-discovered by Rob who was going through his old tracks and then popularized by me after I helped rob figure out how it works and made a sh.it ton of tracks about it since I like it so much.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/820423-glavna-ulica - A figured track where it's used to just gain the double time helicopter
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/462398-heli-sesh/r/cronk - My personal favourite. due to my lack of skill, I couldn't personally pull off a good ghost using the glitch, so I pretty much gave cork a walkthrough of what to do on his alt in the main discord voice call lmao. The first part of the ghost using a lesser used part of the glitch where you can bring time from a vehicle back to a previous vehicle as long as you were on the checkpoint with the vehicle. doing so cuts around 2 seconds off the ascent of the second helicopter part. Then from there it's only a matter of using the glitch to get double heli time to skip the 4th helicopter section. from there it's pretty much just a trial to the end. I like this track a lot because it's easily the track with the biggest unintentional skips using the glitch. and due to the difficulty of the track it would make for a good vehicle feat if the track were to be optimized further and ghosted without deaths.

    The way you described it is pretty close but there's some stuff you missed and got slightly wrong. Let me explain pretty much how it works from my own understanding.
    Firstly, you must have passed through a checkpoint previously at any point in the track to use the glitch.
    Secondly, by pressing enter (or backspace in the case of going through multiple checkpoints) on the same 0.03 framerule that you interact with the vehicle (doesn't necessarily have to be heli, can be truck, blob etc) you will for a single moment return to the checkpoint (obviously since you restarted) but then you'll immediately be returned to the location the vehicle was initially placed.
    Thirdly (and probably most importantly), any powerups that you collected in the space between the checkpoint and the vehicle you used the glitch at will be reset. for example. if you collect the checkpoint, then proceed to collect 17 stars and go through 6 teleporters before using the glitch at a helicopter. The glitch will happen like normal but all 17 stars will be uncollected and the 6 teleporters will be able to be reused. This is the fun part behind making the puzzles that I did because it involves strategically collecting powerups and using the glitch to reset teleporters and return through them with a vehicle that you didn't have access to before.

    Here's a list of all the positive things that can be abused by using the glitch:
    - Most notably the vehicle you used the glitch on will have double time. for example if it initially had 10 seconds on the timer it would have 20. this happens because the helicopter you used the glitch on is counted as one of the power ups that gets reset every time the glitch is used. so you're essentially collecting the same power up twice back to back.
    - reusable teleporters
    - being able to bring vehicle time to another location. For example if you collect a checkpoint while in a blob with 4.77 seconds left and proceed with the track as normal and have the time run out. Later in the track if you use the glitch on another blob with 15 seconds instead of returning you to the point with that you used the glitch like normal with a 30 second blob, it'll return you the checkpoint that you collected with the previous blob with but now with 19.77 seconds left on it, therefore allowing you go down previously unopen paths. (which was the objective in waterlife 4 except i forgot you could just use the double time feature of the glitch to skip the top-most area of the level lmao

    Also this is how you know the glitch will work. The heli's greyed out because it's registered being collected but you still haven't become the helicopter yet. Holding down enter and unpausing from this position will successfully do the glitch and, in this image, reset the teleporter:
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    It sounds complicated and I guess it is a bit, but after messing around with the things you can make with it you'll get used to it.

    Here's all the tracks I've made using the glitch easiest to hardest in case people want to practice:
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/728766-heli-tech - Just the generic use of the double time feature
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/730506-recycle-and-reuse - Just the generic use of the teleport refresh feature
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/779496-puzzler - Puzzle level that uses teleport refreshing multiple times with multiple vehicles.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/820443-water-life-4-fixed - Was made so you couldn't use the Polygon's mod vehicle glitch, but this version also has an unintentional skip by using the double time feature on the first blob. I've yet to make a waterlife 4[fixed [fixed]]
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/808550-water-life-4 - Could be exploited with Polygon's mod's variation of the vehicle glitch which allows you to get infinite time on a vehicle. I'm not sure if it's been patched. If it has this is the hardest vehicle glitch track I've currently got

    Some final notes:
    - In the track editor you can go back checkpoints while paused, you can't do that in-game so keep that in mind while making tracks with the glitch as the solution.
    - Ghosts will, not always, but frequently break when using the glitch. So I can image grinding for a featured ghost while using this glitch would be difficult but not impossible.
    - If you couldn't tell I really want more tracks with this sh.it because I think it's cool.
    - Happy g̶l̶i̶t̶c̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ghosting, Everyone.


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  5. Mitsera

    Mitsera Well-Known Member Official Author

    Ironically enough i was taught how to execute this glitch yesterday by a friend
     
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  6. Cerasium

    Cerasium Mod On The FRHD Speedrun.com Page Ghosting Legend Ghost Moderator Team Helicopter Best Ghoster Of 2024 Official Author

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    BRUH YOU WERE THE ONE WHO COMMENTED ON MY PROFILE FIRST WITH "heyyyyyyyyyyyyy :)" I JUST SAID "hello" BACK TO YOU SO YOU ARE THE PREDATOR AND YOU ARE SUCH A CREEP
     
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  7. Mitsera

    Mitsera Well-Known Member Official Author

    what the hell is goingon rn
     
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  8. Cerasium

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    idek
     
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  9. Mitsera

    Mitsera Well-Known Member Official Author

    damn
     
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  10. SilentFinger

    SilentFinger I have 3 featured tracks Elite Author Official Author

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    It appears that Cerasium is harassing forums user "Olivia_kitty"
     
  11. Wayward

    Wayward Well-Known Member Team Balloon Official Author

    Actually learned of this glitch through one of my favorite ghosters RedOrBlue who used it on an endurance track.
     
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  12. adversitas

    adversitas Well-Known Member Team Truck Official Author

    hey Totoca12 RadiumRC can we use polygon's mod in our ghosts (feat ghost attempts) to hide the scenery lines? and change colours?
     
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  13. Embers

    Embers Active Member Official Author

    frhd merch
     
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  14. Totoca12

    Totoca12 Administrator Staff Member Administrator Forum Moderator Ghost Moderator Team Truck Official Author

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    We didn't fully discuss this yet and I rarely use Polygon's mod, so I'm not sure about how it's now, but I'm more inclined to be against it. I remember that there were some glitches you could do with Polygon's mod that weren't possible without it, so there's some instances that it would be 100% unfair. If you are just changing bike colours I don't know if I care that much, but wasn't there a glitch with vehicles with his mod? I don't remember it correctly. I see no reason to use it for feat ghost attempts, though. But I guess in some cases it wouldn't make much difference.
     
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  15. Mitsera

    Mitsera Well-Known Member Official Author

    i use polygons mod, though i can say with certainty i havent come across any bugs with the bikes with it
     
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  16. RubeGoldberger

    RubeGoldberger Well-Known Member Official Author

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    There was a bug that allowed you to collect stars during the infinite vehicle time glitch (when you die at the same time as collecting a powerup), making ridiculous cuts possible. I think it was patched, but I don't know for sure.

    I feel like the mod should be allowed as long as no glitches are exploited.
     
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  17. Totoca12

    Totoca12 Administrator Staff Member Administrator Forum Moderator Ghost Moderator Team Truck Official Author

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    Yeah, I guess that was that glitch. Obviously that wouldn't be allowed. If it was fixed already then that's something to reconsider. Would like to know about it for sure later.
    Yeah, exactly. Sometimes I use some stuff like an input display or the script from Calculus to show the featured ghosts in the game or stuff like this. I personally don't mind this kind of stuff, but if it's something that gives you a solid advantage in the game or that allows you to exploit a glitch that doesn't happen in the actual game usually, then it's definitely not allowed.
     
  18. TheMemeBiker

    TheMemeBiker Well-Known Member Official Author

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    so does that mean the bike glitch (changing bikes) is allowed?
     
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  19. Totoca12

    Totoca12 Administrator Staff Member Administrator Forum Moderator Ghost Moderator Team Truck Official Author

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    We are still discussing about it. There's only one featured ghost with this glitch and it's currently under review
     
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  20. RandomTurtleBoi

    RandomTurtleBoi Well-Known Member Official Author

    this one right? http://frhd.co/t/225125/r/theft
     

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