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Poll: Do you spacebar?

Discussion in 'Anything and everything Free Rider' started by Azgr00, Aug 29, 2021.

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Do you spacebar?

  1. Yes

    38.2%
  2. No

    48.5%
  3. Idk/Other/What is spacebarring?

    13.2%
  1. doge_eating_chicken

    doge_eating_chicken Well-Known Member Official Author

    i use spacebar because it helps me be pro
     
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  2. Stig

    Stig Stig VIP Official Author

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    Spacebarring is acting dishonestly to gain an advantage. This is the definition of the word cheating, and basicly what you wrote yourself. The illusion of the ghost being a continous and skillfull effort is the dishonesty. The advantage is that it makes your ghosts faster and more visually appealing. Also, everyone can cheat a math-test. Just because a school has toilets "integrated" in them doesn't make it right to sneak off to check your hidden notes.
     
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  3. Examples

    Examples Well-Known Member Official Author

    i want to know who made this. ain't no way when people think of "well-known ghosters" they think of firebreast or kanvo :thumbsdown:

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  4. we_are_number_one

    we_are_number_one Well-Known Member Official Author

    :rofl:
     
  5. Calculus

    Calculus Community Developer Staff Member Administrator Ghost Moderator

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    Fair enough. I'm not choosing sides; just arguing a point. I recently made a snake game, being that I was bored and had a few hours to burn. I asked a few people to test it out, and they asked if they could pause the game to do something. I told them, "No such functionality exists. Although, it would be cheating." I was thinking about the pause functionality with the mindset that it would be spacebarring, should the right people find the game. With a game like Snake, it's meant to be played in one go. Or at least, mine is. So, a pause functionality wouldn't be necessary. However, I do plan on implementing it since they did enjoy my version better than the original (or Google Snake). One could argue both points equally.
     
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  6. Totoca12

    Totoca12 Administrator Staff Member Administrator Forum Moderator Ghost Moderator Team Truck Official Author

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    8 years of FRHD and we are still on this topic, lol. I think that in the way the game was intended to be played, it could be considered as cheating for sure. However, it's definitely not illegal, considering that the pause functionality is a part of the game and that there's no actual limitation or rule about how to use it.

    If the developers were so eager to "fix the spacebarring issue", as I think Char mentioned once, they would have already done it.

    It's simple. Just not letting the pause functionality be activated through the keyboard or making a pausing menu show up (like in Free Rider 3) would pretty much fix the issue. But the devs didn't do it.

    Since the developers didn't fix it and since it's not illegal, is it actually cheating? I didn't know that this was a thing when I started doing it, it just evolved naturally. If the way people play the game changed with time and the developers never did anything to fix this or to advertise it was illegal, I don't think it's actually considered cheating. Char was probably a bit mad with spacebarrers, but after all those years if he actually thought that spacebarring was illegal or was straight up cheating I think he wouldn't have given out Pro or coins to me and some other players for ghosting contests, since it's clear that all winners of the biggest ghosting contests are spacebarrers.

    So to keep it short, I think spacebarring is cheating considering how the game was intended to be played, but I don't think it is cheating considering how the game evolved, especially considering how the developers didn't do anything even when they were active and could have easily fixed this. However, I do think it might be slightly unfair to new players, since it's not something advertised in the actual game, although we do have spacebarring discussions and a spacebarring tutorial pinned somewhere in the forums, but we know that most players don't use the forums, so yeah, that can be a bit unfair.

    So, is it illegal? Definitely not. Is it cheating? Depends on your point of view. Years ago it definitely was, but I don't think it is now, especially among forum members. Is it unfair? To non-forum members, definitely yes, at least a bit. To forum members, I don't think so, since it's something that is discussed every single year, apparently sometimes by the same people, haha.

    This is just my opinion, though.
     
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2021
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  7. we_are_number_one

    we_are_number_one Well-Known Member Official Author

    How did you guys even figure out spacebar spamming slowed down the game
     
  8. Totoca12

    Totoca12 Administrator Staff Member Administrator Forum Moderator Ghost Moderator Team Truck Official Author

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    In my case I didn't spammed the spacebar, and in many scenarios I still don't. I just paused before hard tricks to figure out what to do. I barely spacebar in smooth jumps tracks for example. It's worse for me. But in super technical tracks, if you know the movements necessary to complete the trick, it's helpful to actually complete the complex movements.
     
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  9. we_are_number_one

    we_are_number_one Well-Known Member Official Author

    Awhile ago before I knew what spacebarring was everytime I would pause in the middle of a ghost I would always die, so I thought it was bad luck so never did it and when I discovered spacebaring I thought it would be bad luck, turns out I didn’t really need it lol
     
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  10. Xenom

    Xenom Average Ohio player Ghosting Legend Ghost Moderator Team Blob Official Author

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    I spacebar :evil:
     
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  11. Urabni

    Urabni Active Member Official Author

    I actually kinda realized how exactly to spacebar well like last week, so now I'm pretty much doing it, on tubes at least
    it's fun
     
  12. Xenom

    Xenom Average Ohio player Ghosting Legend Ghost Moderator Team Blob Official Author

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    yeah lol
     
  13. The_risen_skyrider

    The_risen_skyrider Well-Known Member Team Helicopter Official Author

    Man this sums up me. I'm pretty much nsb except for tubes, trials, and offroad
     
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  14. Azgr00

    Azgr00 Well-Known Member Team Helicopter Official Author

    How in the world did an old pool get 40+ votes!?

    Update: i spacebar pretty much every track i play. I'm still not the best ghoster, and i'm improving at a slower than average rate. I really need to focus more on endurance in long tracks than in short ones :confused:

    I would rate myself (new rating ghoster post soon (not a clone of sidewalk's)?):

    82/100 at tubes
    70/100 at offroads
    75/100 at climbs
    50/100 at jumps
    80/100 at auto-cutting
    50/100 at trickghosting
    72/100 at trials
    72/100 at vehicles (including all vehicles)

    For comparison, setsu is like 89/100 at tubes, madara is like 97/100 at offroads, cerulean is like 92/100 at climbs, etc.
     
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  15. Xenom

    Xenom Average Ohio player Ghosting Legend Ghost Moderator Team Blob Official Author

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    Since people are going so in depth, I guess I'll explain as well. I spacebar basically every single track I play, with the exception of short jump tracks, one line tracks, etc. I rely on it a lot, and I've tried non spacebarring occasionally, I just can't manage to do barely any tracks, except some jump tracks, which I can do decently well. I don't really want to rate myself on any different types of tracks, just because I'll get absolutely debunked by like Anonyymi or something. Overall I would say I'm a good ghoster, but I feel like I'm not as amazing as some people think. I just play a lot, lol.


    (spacebarring makes you better don't be like we_are_number_one and TPlacella by having some weird morals about spacebarring :ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:)
     
  16. emorta

    emorta Active Member Official Author

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    go brrrr
     
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  17. Tubiek

    Tubiek Well-Known Member Team Helicopter Official Author

    i would never spacebar.
     
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  18. we_are_number_one

    we_are_number_one Well-Known Member Official Author

    Bro really calling people out for not abusing a glitch
     
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  19. we_are_number_one

    we_are_number_one Well-Known Member Official Author

    Azgr00 how did you like my message before I even posted it
     
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  20. Azgr00

    Azgr00 Well-Known Member Team Helicopter Official Author

    I just liked it instantly when i got the notification. It's not a forums glitch, if you've been wandering, i was just early
     
    Last edited: Jan 29, 2023

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