Feedback from featuring discussions

Stig and Radium be like:

 

Nah don’t get what I said twisted. I think it’s a dumb idea now too. Imagine taking what could’ve been a time to reward players for showing effort and revitalizing the game, and instead pull back and make it more difficult because there’s “too many” great tracks being released.

I don’t understand how any grown adult, who is aware of how long it takes to make some of these tracks, would find opportunities to not give someone the credit they deserve.

 

I see your point tbh

Still, think what this system is trying to do is not an attempt to discourage up-coming or well known trackmakers by having a majority rules vote, but a more information based approach with the purpose of signalling to the author what they think that track could have done to be worth getting a feature or explaining why the author got it. Obviously one subjective opinion will see a track thats deserving of a feature but another subjective opinion wont, yet its the only plausible way of judging feature worthy tracks - only difference is those that have the final say are people who've contributed so much to the community that it seemingly justifies them making the opinions they do

But you got a point about the effort, im saying that from experience - think that goes back to the debate about whether more emphasis on the art or the track itself determines if it gets a feature or not, eg; with some people preferring to stick to the art side and others the ride

sidenote I wouldve featured malicias track too

 

I just want to see new tracks bros

 

I think that this new featured voting system is really good for the game, especially since as authors, we are getting input from those that are more experienced than us. The only con in my opinion is the length it takes to feature a track now but I think that's good because people's opinions can sway in a positive or negative direction. For those saying that this makes it harder for people without features, you're simply wrong. People who already have features have already established that they have potential, or have reached their full capabilities as a track maker. That's why you might see that some people have lower standards than others. For example, authors like myself are obviously going to have way lowers standards than those of someone like Maple or max. This isn't saying that a big, bad track by a bad author will get featured because it's to the best of their abilities, but that's where some need to learn to live with constructive criticism. One thing I've noticed with newer players is that they can't take an ounce of constructive criticism, which in return does not allow them to grow at all. There was a long time in which I thought my first feature would be the peak of my trackmaking abilities, but I listened to most of the cc and built upon what I already had. The point is that we can't expect every average track to be handed a feature, and to trust the decision of the feature mods. To those who want to get that first feature, don't be afraid to take risks and trying something different. Also, don't be afraid to ask more experienced authors for help/second opinions. I know that many of us experienced authors would be willing to help, especially since we love seeing newer authors making amazing tracks.

 

I am afraid to ask more experienced authors for help since they are very mean

 

this you bud?

 

I am afraid


in all seriousness all the help you gave me, even though i am a trash artist helped so much. ty man

 

Adventure ii by Pancakes345
poll results: yea 1 / nay 4

tried to go all out on the advice here. getting a feature for a ride-oriented track with minimal detail is very difficult but there are ways of doing it. looking at what Pancakes345 did well (he makes very fun tracks) + applying the advice will put you in the right direction.

 

Kelp Me I'm Drowining by dantexpress
Poll Results: 3 Yes | 1 No

Congrats on the feat

 

i appreciate the feedback, there isn't really much i can argue against. in reality i could have done quite a bit more with the track (and likely should have) as maple pointed out, but i was partially having a minor freakout over the prospect of starting university this week that i didnt give the remix track the respect and time it deserved. i gotta agree with what eryp said that in essence tears and kelp are the same. i still think dead animal juice is my best track.

im glad you folks enjoyed kelp me. good luck to the other r2 entrants, i hope we can get a few more good tracks from it!!

 

1. they didn't "make it more difficult because there's 'too many' great tracks being released" otherwise they would have explicitly stated an intention to make it more difficult
2. discrediting the feat mods for missing 'blatantly obvious' feats isn't really a valid point when there are like 5 people voting in each case and what you may think is blatantly obvious isn't necessarily obvious to the people voting
3. a feature isn't and probably wont ever be based solely off of effort and revitalizing the game and even if they were, most of the tracks you've suggested (even of some of them did get robbed of a feature) didn't really do anything revolutionary or have an awe-inspiring amount of effort put into them
4. most tracks with an above average amount of effort put in to them do get enough credit already from the trending and hot pages, and really how much credit they deserve varies from person to person. plus the featured tracks section is really just another glorified more rigid trending section the end of the day when you think about it

 

It really comes down to a fundamental difference in how I view the featured track list as opposed to others in the community. I see the list as a reward, others see the list as a test, which is a flawed way of thinking in my opinion. As a person who couldn't put nearly enough time into making something feature-worthy at the moment, I have huge amounts of respect for people who make time to do so.

I appreciate your ability to see one of the cons. But come on bro, you can't list one of the many clear negatives and then say it doesn't make feature attainability harder. I cannot conceivably rely on all of these people being active enough in the future to respond in a timely manner, and among those that are active I cannot assume they'd all be in agreement of a track deserving a feature. This "committee" responding in 1-2 weeks will devolve into 3-4 weeks into a month, before this thread ultimately goes inactive after enough life has been squeezed out of the game.

They are aware that this makes feature attainability harder. A 3 to 4 vote is the closest to a miss you can get, assuming a tied vote gets the nod. Requiring a majority vote is a failure of the team, especially since Maple's post above only required 3. Rewarding effort and doing what is best for the game is what I've always been for, and using "revolutionary" and "awe-inspiring" as necessities for determining feature-ability disqualifies over half the current featured list. I agree with the featured list being "glorified", along with that, this committee is one of the most pretentious things I've ever seen on this website.

 

k i ain't reading all that

lets just agree to disagree here since its clear we have different opinions and perspectives on what a featured track is

 

Questionable Social Constructs by Eli
poll results: yea 5 / nay 0

 

The Ultracave by loge_0
Poll Results: 3 yes | 2 no

Congrats on feat

Path to Paradise -Not Finished by DunderMifflin
Poll Results: 3 yes | 1 no

 

im actually surprised it passed, didn't think it was finished enough. if i had a little more time i would have properly finished the track (eg. finished the shaded background and detailed the 2nd mound more), but deadlines are a problem when attempting tracks of this scale for a contest. i think i learnt my lesson, haha

im still glad it passed, and thankful for the cc from you guys

 

lets go

 

the weasel
yay 0 - nay 3
https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/938851-weasel

unlucky figured, better luck next time

 

The Scientist by Chaos-Fallen
poll results: yea 4 / nay 0

not much said about this, but the votes speak for themselves on this one.