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Featured Track Team is Biased

Discussion in 'Anything and everything Free Rider' started by Mr_Snoogley, May 29, 2015.

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  1. Skeeny

    Skeeny Well-Known Member Official Author

    then there me who doesn't think that it's biased... :) I said it up there :rolleyes:
     
  2. Elibloodthirst

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    The Anti-Featured Track Team is biased tbh.
     
  3. RiderExtreme2

    RiderExtreme2 Well-Known Member Official Author

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    Personally, I feel like you have been trying to start arguments so you could redeem yourself for what happened on BHR. Just calm down and stop trying to cause trouble. The feature team is not biased imo.
     
  4. Mr_Snoogley

    Mr_Snoogley Well-Known Member Official Author

    well that's brash
     
  5. Flying_T_Rex

    Flying_T_Rex Forum Legend Team Blob Official Author

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    F*ck Chuck <--Rhymes
     
  6. Cynic

    Cynic uh oh Elite Author Official Author

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    feature mods are NOT biased.
     
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  7. Jefe

    Jefe Forum Legend Official Author

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    I'm gonna be mature here and throw an opinion into the pool.
    Chuck's tracks are pretty repetitive and rubbish, to be quite honest. For example:
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    Here you can see that the walls repeat with little to no attention to detail, and the grass spikes up in the exact same way with every pixel. And again, the waterfall, the use of almost identical detail all the way down it. It's little to no effort put into his tracks that makes him popular, 'cus of the smoothness that people somehow enjoy.
    I'm guessing that the Right-wing Featurers (lol, I'm meaning this as BHR-type people like me, not as Hitler) look at detail and overall track quality. They're doing a good job at finding nice tracks and making a good judgement.
    If there are tracks that are Minimalistic/Heavily detailed, they need to be a job well done overall. If you've ever seen BHR (not many people ehuehue), a lot of featured tracks are minimalistic and revolve around gameplay, instead of Graphics.
    Many of our Right-wing Feature staff do want people to be influenced by these right-wing concepts. This is because they want to see some "decent tracks" (I'd also call it that too, to be quite honest.). Featured and Hot tracks, if I'm quite honest, do influence the tracks that people make. When FRHD was created, Chuck rushes on there, and what do we see? Smooth. Tracks. Everywhere. Though on a place like FR2DB (also known as Canvas Rider nowadays), there were some pretty nice Right-wing tracks, and this influenced people in a whole new way.
    Causing the rivalry.
    I'm pretty sure a load of people want to see more Right-wing tracks, so I'm with WM and Alex on this one.
     
  8. Egghead

    Egghead Active Member Official Author

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    I couldnt have said it better
     
  9. Sono

    Sono Well-Known Member Official Author

    Ehh.. I fail like I'm leaning towards Snoogley's side here. :/
    I'm not saying anyone is biased, though. I just feel like it would be nice to see some smoother tracks in the Featured section.. Take goofyinc for example. Not much detail, but his/her tracks are super smooth, challenging, and all around fun to play. Even though the little details that are in his/her tracks are simple, I find his/her tracks to be quite attractive.
    That's just me, though.
     
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  10. Mr_Snoogley

    Mr_Snoogley Well-Known Member Official Author

    very true, this for example definitely deserves a feature imo
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/136965-mythical-mountain-collab
     
  11. goofyinc

    goofyinc Well-Known Member Official Author

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    me is a he xD
     
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  12. Jefe

    Jefe Forum Legend Official Author

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    Personally, no.
    The detail is waaaaaay too repetitive and though the track is alright, there is no variance. I'd call it boring, to be quite honest.
    If they had used some cky199-style detail, then I'd call it feat-worthy.
     
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  13. weem

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    The problem with smooth tracks is that they aren't too fun. Some could be pretty fun but most just have repetitive jumps and powerups that do basically everything for you, which isn't hard to do and doesn't require much creativity. Even if there are "difficult" parts of the track, most smooth tracks are just the same old tracks free rider has seen for years.
    Back in canvas rider I made smooth tracks like what I'm explaining but in actuality it wasn't even fun to me, felt too easy, boring and old. I just knew that making them would get me a ton of likes and each track I made that was mainstream and smooth got popular (why a lot of people do it imo).
    My point is that from me, to get a smooth track featured, there has to be some kind of creative element to it. Some sort of creative theme, maybe even a cool element to the track that makes it stick out from other popular smooth tracks we see.:thumbsup:
     
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  14. goofyinc

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    In order to make a statement that smooth tracks are boring, you need to actually try some of them..
    May I suggest trying some of my tracks, and see if you have the skills to finish them.

    Personally a track always wins when the gameplay overrides the artwork. But hey who am I, I'm just a real freerider, with real bike experience.
     
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  15. Char

    Char Free Rider HD Developer Official Author

    Agree with this.
     
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  16. FOIL

    FOIL Forum Legend Official Author

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    Umm... All you really need to do is hold up, lean at times, and press the occasional "z" button. That's not anything new nor special. Plus the detail and gameplay of smooth tracks gets repetitive. If the featured track team were to feature a smooth track, it would have to be pretty much perfect and highly detailed and have some sort of thing that makes it different from any other smooth thing out there.
     
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  17. iTzChuckNorris

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    You really have no room to talk.

    Anyways, I thought I should offer my opinion of this thread.
    Yes, the feature team is a little biased. However, there really aren't many others who are better suited for the job. I know I said "the feature team is horrible" and I meant that to an extent. There is really no easy way to fix the problem though (unless we double or triple the size of the feature team, which is probably a bad idea). Featured tracks are completely based on opinion and not rating. If this team isn't featuring tracks, some other team will be, and as a result, some people will probably disagree with some of their decisions. Now, I don't feel like searching around the database for tracks that I feel should be featured (that is not my job), but I will make a quick point using the tracks I know. (mine)

    If tracks like this are featured:
    blue-trashcan
    wild-one-express
    contest-entry
    wooden-bucket
    caesium
    plasticorp
    alice
    (yes mostly Ness, but that's his style. I don't have anything against these tracks... other than how f****** impossible they are)

    Then I strongly believe that Snowy Slopes 10 should be featured. I'm not saying that those tracks don't deserve to be featured, but if they are, then the feature mods have overlooked a few 'feature worthy' tracks. Looking at them, I can tell that they took an immense amount of time to create and I think the authors should receive some recognition for their work. However, I also think some of the feature mods fail to realize just how difficult a track like SS10 is to make. I mean, I probably spent more time on it than almost any other track I've made. Again, I'm sure there are others.

    If tracks like this are featured:
    seventh-sea
    ithaka
    country-cycling
    cliffside-trail
    crysis
    backyard
    catch-ya-plane
    asteroid-escape

    Then why isn't Twisting Nether featured? Maybe I'm just missing something, but I don't see how they are any better. Different? Yes, but quality wise, I'm not seeing it.

    Finally, if mountain-ride and cityscape are featured, then how is cityscape-2 not? The only reason I'm giving these examples is to show how the feature team is either biased, or just missing some tracks (in my opinion).

    As another example, tracks like Twisting Nether 2 should not be featured. Yes I spent a very, very long time on it, but the mountain doesn't even look like a mountain and the water is horrible. With some slight changes, I think it could be a feature worthy track, but that's besides the point.

    My point is: if it is clear that an author has spent an exceptional amount of time on a track, whether it is the track, artwork, or whatever, and the final product is clean, working, playable, and looks good, then it deserves a feature. Difficulty to beat the track should have NOTHING to do with it being feature worthy. In fact, Snowy Slopes 10 was incredibly difficult to make easy to play. No, this is not just a plea to feature my Snowy Slopes 10 and Twisting Nether tracks. To be honest I care very little about features, and I'm probably a little biased myself. It wouldn't benefit me and the whole point of featuring is to get more people to play tracks that deserve it. Not to get cocky, but I really don't need that. It would be nice to be shown recognition for my work, but in reality, getting a featured track only means that a few people approve of it, and I honestly don't care about their opinions of me. The only problem is that their opinions affect the home page of FRHD.
     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2015
  18. alexander

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    iTzChuckNorris your detail just isn't good bro. Yes, it's clear you spend a lot of time on making the smooth tracks, but none of your detail is really impressive at all. Take Jon's Pond (https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/92960-jons-pond) for example: it's basically the same type of track you make, but it has a much cooler layout and better detail.
     
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  19. pssst

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    I don't understand why people dislike itzchuck and his tracks so much. Imo he has perfected his own style, it's not just smooth jumps, it's his own style and what he chooses to make.

    Also, chucks tracks do a lot for inspiring the new user. Surprisingly, I never played chucks tracks that much cuz I joined and kept to myself on CR but since the TrackMill and CanvasRider communities have together I have become more familiar with his tracks and him.

    I happen to have nothing against him or his work. You guys are just immature and like to antagonize him and/or bash his work.
     
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  20. codrey

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    The difference tho between Snowy Slopes 10 and any of Ness' tracks is that after i complete one of Ness' tracks, i feel so good because as u said they are extremely difficult. BUT, when i complete one of ur tracks, i just simply click on the next track i see and move on bcoz it wasnt a challenege nor a rememorable ride. I understand that flow is hard to make and whatnot, and im not calling u out or paying u out, but i dont see much of a reason as to why Snowy Slopes 10 would be featured instead of/as well as any of Ness' tracks. Your tracks are fun to watch, but not fun to play as it is a flow-y track.
     
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