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An Informative Message to Track Designers!

Discussion in 'Anything and everything Free Rider' started by armator, Nov 22, 2014.

  1. armator

    armator Well-Known Member Official Author

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    Beforehand, this is to people who both like to doodle on their tracks, or want to get into it more. It is not about detailing, but composition.

    If you don't know what composition is: The strategically visual arrangement of objects in a picture. The way they are placed could be crucial to the outcome of the piece.

    I remember playing moose-man's in 8th grade at school and thinking they were the most creative things ever. I still think they are. It does not matter how much detail or art is included, it's how you get your point across. He made kick-a$s kitchen and bedroom theme tracks. The perspective is nice, the objects are placed greatly and used to their full potential. When I mean using objects to the full potential, they are not randomly placed to fill in room. If you want to have a room scene work well, you have to make the rider use the objects realistically; jump onto them, go inside them if possible, or even both. Make the objects not just part of the bigger picture but useful to every degree. If you are one to keeping your work simple, use as few drawn objects that you need, but get the most out of them. My example The biker could ride under the umbrellas, and also on top of them to get to another area of the beach.

    Moral to the story: You don't need excessive detail or art to prove a point.

    Thanks for reading!
     
    Last edited: Nov 22, 2014
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  2. LucJohnson

    LucJohnson Well-Known Member Official Author

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    Very good explanation, listen to the expert new and upcoming authors....
    Also I can't see the link....nvm :p
     
  3. Maple

    Maple Love to draw VIP Team Balloon Trackmaker Of The Decade Official Author

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    I don't think everyone will be able to see...
    edit: didnt see lucs post
     
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  4. pssst

    pssst Forum Legend Elite Author Team Blob Official Author

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    good knowledge
     
  5. armator

    armator Well-Known Member Official Author

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    Sorry guys, I forgot that it wouldn't work :( I'll edit it in.
    Also, thanks LucJohnson !

    edit: reading it again, it sounds like I'm being kind of rude >.< I was just really "into the writing" haha
    I hope you all understand :)
     
    Last edited: Nov 22, 2014
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  6. LucJohnson

    LucJohnson Well-Known Member Official Author

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    Lol anytime :)
     
  7. Joelbmx

    Joelbmx Well-Known Member Official Author

    Haha you weren't rude at any point, your just too nice arm XD. Good read btw.
     
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  8. FREEZ

    FREEZ Well-Known Member Official Author

    are my war tracks bad in this respect?
    You see detailing them gets SO monotonous. Am I doing something WRONG
     
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  9. crane

    crane Well-Known Member Official Author

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    Its probably more to do with getting better at what detail needs to be made. Its stripping back the unnecessary lines and leaving clean detail. Like in your track http://www.freeriderhd.com/t/64765-war-3-paratrooper-reloaded
    the plane at the start has lines on the outside of it that dont need to exist - itd look cleaner with alot less lines. Dont be afraid of empty space, arms beach track has alot of empty space but is still detailed and more importantly stylish
     
  10. Coffee

    Coffee Well-Known Member Official Author

    For your ground detail you should stop putting straight grey lines horizontally across your track if you want to make it more realistic.
     
    Last edited: Nov 22, 2014
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  11. armator

    armator Well-Known Member Official Author

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    FREEZ no, your war tracks are nice and fun :)

    This message was mainly for people who are afraid to add things into their tracks because the standards for detailing are a lot different than they used to be. It's ok to not have a lot and still look nice. Also this approach seems forgotten or buried in the pre-2010 era and it'd be fun to see more of these again!
     
  12. Elibloodthirst

    Elibloodthirst DeadRising2 VIP Team Helicopter Forum Member Of The Decade (2014-2024) Official Author

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    >vows to create different
    > Forgets and creates the same

    Me every time
     
  13. ookami_san

    ookami_san Well-Known Member Official Author

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    In my opinion, when the rider uses too many elements of the track, it ruins the realism.

    >It is not about detailing, but composition.
    Couldn't agree more on this one though.
     
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  14. Elibloodthirst

    Elibloodthirst DeadRising2 VIP Team Helicopter Forum Member Of The Decade (2014-2024) Official Author

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    Well, you got to remember this game isn't about realism it's about imagination
     
  15. armator

    armator Well-Known Member Official Author

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    Post of the year
     
  16. ookami_san

    ookami_san Well-Known Member Official Author

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    It's about whatever you want to make from it. If some people want to go for extreme realism, without being super imaginative, that's just as good.
     
  17. Elibloodthirst

    Elibloodthirst DeadRising2 VIP Team Helicopter Forum Member Of The Decade (2014-2024) Official Author

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    Well, if you imagine something to be realistic and life life. then you're imagining it because it's your depiction and not a photo or real life. So no and yes in a way. It's just the type of imagination you're putting into a track.
     
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  18. Joelbmx

    Joelbmx Well-Known Member Official Author

    Life life is like life like except its life likeness is like two life likenesses instead of one life likeness making it more life like than life like so we call it life life. Got it? I didn't think so.
     
    Last edited: Nov 22, 2014
  19. armator

    armator Well-Known Member Official Author

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    No need to diss large pieces of art on tracks, or no art at all, of course they're great either way. But there isn't only a black and white to this game, there's a middle ground. And this is one spectrum of it.
     
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  20. pssst

    pssst Forum Legend Elite Author Team Blob Official Author

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    this is getting tense
     

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