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Top 10 tracks of all time

Discussion in 'Anything and everything Free Rider' started by Max007x, Jul 18, 2017.

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  1. Phase

    Phase Well-Known Member Official Author

    I honestly think this is wagon on spruce's account
     
  2. spruce

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    maple is a much better artist than lolz
     
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  3. Phase

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    Stig I hate to ask you to lock such a good thread like this, but I think you need to lock this, before this becomes a huge fight
     
  4. Phase

    Phase Well-Known Member Official Author

    Liar
     
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  5. Stig

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    Its not a fight, just a discussion. Its natural to have strong and different opinions about who makes better tracks etc
     
  6. pssst

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    My mind is still blown that all my work is directly linked to lolz666 golly gee wowzerz
     
  7. Phase

    Phase Well-Known Member Official Author

    And lolz's detail is way better than maple in every aspect, his clouds are more realistic, trees are more realistic, his rocks are more realistic and he is better at adapting to different scenes. lolz666 was the first to make the all gray trees which maple copied, maple used the same style as maple, maple even said he was inspired by lolz666. And if you haven't seen previews of lolz666 new track, it's better than anything he's ever made before, he even said it in a conversation we have, just read my sig.
     
  8. Ishu

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    I like Maple's detail better because he branches out to detail more than just plain nature and architecture
     
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    I disagree, all lolz666 seems draw is nature and granted he is very good at that, while maple seems to be able to draw whatever the heck he wants, look at Wrath, Calamity and so on. Also look at Omen by maple, that is clearly not like anything lolz has done and I feel like the detail is better quality and he certainly did a better job with the 3d aspect of it then anything lolz has posted. I used to think that lolz was better then maple too at one point but from studying both their works, I see maple having much better quality and creativity.
     
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    Maple can draw other things besides a few trees and rocks. Anybody remember that dragon from calamity?
     
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    Is that actually him? I know he is asian.
     
  12. Phase

    Phase Well-Known Member Official Author

    Wouldn't surprise me
     
  13. Maple

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    I was actually so hurt when I read through this.

    This is complete BS, people don't know me and so they make assumptions. Especially at this point, no one has any idea.

    e;I don't copy, like wtf. Most my things have never been done on fr before and you're gonna accuse me of copying.
     
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  14. pssst

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    Who is the real Maple?
     
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    No one's accusing you of copying, or being without skill. But it is without doubt that you have allowed yourself to be heavily inspired by lolz, like a lot of real detailers, including myself. To be hurt by something thats a known fact to more yourself than anyone else, is just the ego getting a scratch.
    Others believing that lolz is more original is a completely legitimate opinion, which i am certain ive said to you before, aswell as ive reminded you several times to make your "inspiration" parts more discrete.
    You outdo him on themes imo though, this is strictly detail speaking.
     
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  16. Maple

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    Are you kidding me? I was tagged to this>"Maple is basically a copy of lolz666"
    I don't know why you're bringing half of this up I've never disagreed with having been inspired from lolz. Also unlike everyone else who's giving opinions I'm stating the truth: I don't copy. Why don't you show everyone what you think I've copied, you obviously do after I read this from Omen:
    You've always seemed to be on my ass/ in disbelief towards the things I do, you've asked before if I traced along with if I spacebarred. The only thing that is true is that I've been inspired by artists. If it weren't for many of the peeps on FR I would've never been so inclined to initially direct my efforts in forest, nature tracks. I really like lolz and have def been inspired by him but not to the degree which you think. You don't have a clue as to all the other artists that aren't on FR I've been influenced by.

    Look I don't know if it's my ego, but I've invested time and effort into my works and to have someone discredit my efforts as being a copy you can see why I'd be upset.
     
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  17. Stig

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    You're mad eventhough you agree to everything i said. Inspired to the degree I think? I haven't even defined to what degree I think, you can hardly know how i evaluatue "a lot" or "little". let's not be overly defensive, you're overexaggurating, and making me seem like i said things i didnt throughout your whole post.

    anyways questions about who is better etc are widely subjective opinions, and it shouldnt really matter to having fun making or playing tracks. you shouldnt be hurt seeing my subjective opinions on the matter, as they are very well familiar to you from before. you know ive always favoured lolz. that doesnt mean i dont worship your tracks aswell, nor think they are unoriginal. my intent isnt to discredit your work.
    my basic point is that where every real detailer have been inspired by lolz, and others (including you) to different degrees, he hasnt used other trackmakers for reference ever. which in my subjective opinion makes him the best.
     
  18. pssst

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    On another note, Ive barely played any of lolz tracks, cant even honestly say Ive completed one. Jbh
     
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  19. Stig

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    But since you insist (this is just an example, i believe ive pointed out different things earlier, i just didnt care to go that far back in our pms)
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