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  • Idea List / Features missing / Bugs that need fixing

    Discussion in 'Have an idea? Post it here!' started by Char, Jan 26, 2015.

    1. Stig

      Stig Stig VIP Official Author

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      say you're going to compete in running a 1000m course.
      every 100m you get to a checkpoint, at which you may restart from when you decide that you are fully recovered.
      this goes for every competitor in the contest.
      By doing, it's natural that the span btw the best time and the rest is much less, than if you were to run the 1000m without checkpoints. thus making everyone more equally good.
      so isn't it natural to believe that the person who won without the checkpoints with a head of 5 seconds, is better than the winner with checkpoints with a head of 0,2 sec?
      and which one of these do you consider the lucky one? the one without the checkpoints, or the one who won with? afterall there are only 0,2 sec seperating the checkpoint winner from 2nd place, while the one without, really managed to separate himself from the pack and show who's really the best.

      besides, it is not secret, yet a tabu, that every decent ghoster on cr, and bhr are so called "lag riders", that depend on a slow browser, and infinite checkpoint restarts. without either of these, their true "talent" is revealed, and is the sole reason why some of these never even appear on frhd.
       
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    2. Polygon

      Polygon Forum Legend Official Author

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      I still think that CR's version was better. It wasn't too overpowered, and if you don't want people to "abuse" the checkpoints, then just don't place as many.

      I think that the braid system would ruin ghosting, because it is infinite checkpoints, and with that, it takes no skill, while CR style does take skill.
       
    3. Ficus

      Ficus Active Member

      The luckier one would be the one who won by 5 seconds. I already explained this in my previous post. It would be more unlikely to beat the 0.2 seconds with checkpoints by luck, than to beat the 5 seconds without checkpoints by luck. For example, on CR, a noob could possibly complete a couple of track segments by luck better than the pro ghoster. But it's unlikely that the noob would have as much luck on all the other track segments as well. Say the pro ghoster can do a track segment in 15 seconds in one out of ten attempts. Yes it takes luck for the pro to get that one 15 second run, but for the noob, the same would take like 200 attempts for instance. That's why it's very unlikely that the noob could beat the pro by luck on CR. On FRHD, there are more luck involved, because if the pro ghost had to use a checkpoint for instance, a noob would rather likely beat him if he was lucky enough to avoid crashing.

      And even though the BHR ghosters' "true talent" is revealed, they still need lots of luck to get relatively good times on FRHD. Say you've done a perfect run so far, but then you crash one time. No matter how good your ghost was, your time will be bad because of that crash. And your time would be very easy to beat by doing a lazy ghost, but carefully avoiding crashing any time. I've noticed that using a checkpoint one time, and even if you crashed very close to it, it has a huge effect on your time, so don't try to say that it doesn't affect your time. And it's not skill that you avoid crashing. There are some skill involved too, but it's more luck-based than ghosting on CR. The faster FPS also makes it even more luck-based, because the rider is harder to control by skill. One good example of a track segment where you need lots of luck to ride without crashing, would be these kind of parts:
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      Those kind of glitches are impossible to predict and you often need to play the whole track through beforehand to find out whether there are glitches or not. And it's not just glitches, you also need to play the tracks through, because you need to know how certain parts can be completed fast enough or how they should be completed in the first place. On CR you didn't need to do this. You could just simply start playing, because there was no worry about crashing.

      I don't know about the "lag rider" thing (I don't use slow browsers on BHR), but it's sure that the decent ghosters on FRHD are more like luck riders.
       
      Last edited: May 16, 2015
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    4. Dakoziol-2nd

      Dakoziol-2nd Well-Known Member Official Author

      This really all boils down to the opinion of the riders and the decision of Char
       
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    5. weem

      weem supreme Elite Author Team Blob Official Author

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      they won't change the checkpoint system back to the better one (cr version) cuz they don't care about the game enough
       
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    6. Polygon

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      Exactly. I don't have to do any explaining, because you just did it for me.
      It seems like if the developers can find a way to stop checkpoint hacking, then the CR version would be perfect.
       
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    7. Dakoziol-2nd

      Dakoziol-2nd Well-Known Member Official Author

      Lower FPS, DEFINITELY!
       
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    8. Jgeleta1

      Jgeleta1 Active Member Official Author

      Ya, I think they are updating it! First nhdtops track, then my editor broke... Then the fps, then I couldn't load website... Are they updating it???
       
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    9. DblU

      DblU Legendary Non-Cheater Elite Author Official Author

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      Char can you make that we can see how often we are in the leaderboards. Is it ever programmable?
       
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    10. Dakoziol-2nd

      Dakoziol-2nd Well-Known Member Official Author

      I sure hope you're right!
       
    11. Jgeleta1

      Jgeleta1 Active Member Official Author

      Char said that he is working toget it out this week
       
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    12. Dakoziol-2nd

      Dakoziol-2nd Well-Known Member Official Author

      [​IMG]
       
    13. Polygon

      Polygon Forum Legend Official Author

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      lol he also said that over a week ago.
      Can't wait for the new editor!!
       
    14. Scarpa

      Scarpa Well-Known Member Official Author

      after playing shadowland I think that we are in dire need for a fill tool. It should only be accessible to the best authors though, not everyone so it remains special.
       
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    15. Cynic

      Cynic uh oh Elite Author Official Author

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      Featured Ghosts and Featured Ghost Moderators please :)
       
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    16. THEend

      THEend feared and/or loathed in seven states Elite Author Team Blob Official Author

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      NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO please please no
       
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    17. Cynic

      Cynic uh oh Elite Author Official Author

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      heck no
       
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    18. Lightning-Quick

      Lightning-Quick Well-Known Member Official Author

      100 coins for getting featured tracks
       
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    19. nistuj

      nistuj Member

      maybe 1,000?!?
       
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    20. UniqueHD

      UniqueHD New Member Official Author

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      You guys should add different grid sizes so in draw your own track you don't have to be super careful about shading. Now that's an idea. :)
       
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