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List Official Featured Ghosts

Discussion in 'Races' started by mR..A, Oct 31, 2016.

  1. Stevie.T

    Stevie.T Well-Known Member Team Helicopter Official Author

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  2. BrendanMagill

    BrendanMagill Well-Known Member Official Author

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  3. OdysseusSupreme

    OdysseusSupreme Certified Slowpoke Elite Author Team Balloon Official Author

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  4. BrendanMagill

    BrendanMagill Well-Known Member Official Author

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    what track
     
  5. OdysseusSupreme

    OdysseusSupreme Certified Slowpoke Elite Author Team Balloon Official Author

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  6. DblU

    DblU Legendary Non-Cheater Elite Author Official Author

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  7. Madara

    Madara eesoncanaocee Ghosting Legend Official Author

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    you need to step up your game, champ.
     
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  8. G-raffe

    G-raffe Cheese grater?... could be worse Elite Author Team Balloon Official Author

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  9. OdysseusSupreme

    OdysseusSupreme Certified Slowpoke Elite Author Team Balloon Official Author

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    is anyone gonna do my cut or am i gonna have to do it


    i really dont wanna do it
     
  10. DblU

    DblU Legendary Non-Cheater Elite Author Official Author

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    Maybe, but spacebarring never
     
  11. BrendanMagill

    BrendanMagill Well-Known Member Official Author

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    I did it but the teleport at the end killed me so I quit
     
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  12. Kazman

    Kazman Well-Known Member Official Author

  13. Madara

    Madara eesoncanaocee Ghosting Legend Official Author

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  14. Coated_Badger

    Coated_Badger Coager Elite Author Team Truck Official Author

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  15. SeaVenom

    SeaVenom Member Official Author

    Kazman not tas autospacebar btw im sharkfin i quit
     
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  16. Zycerak

    Zycerak Lone Wolf Elite Author Team Truck Rotten Flesh Official Author

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    YES!!!:D:D:D
     
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  17. Polarized

    Polarized Well-Known Member Official Author

  18. a_drain

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  19. Kazman

    Kazman Well-Known Member Official Author

    So you cheat either way. I have lost all respect for you
     
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  20. Totoca12

    Totoca12 Administrator Staff Member Administrator Forum Moderator Ghost Moderator Team Truck Official Author

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    BIG UPDATE:

    (Total of ghosts reviewed: 40)

    First of all, the reason why we consider this a big update isn't because of the amount of ghosts reviewed, but it's because we made some changes in the criteria for Featured Ghosts, especially in the Auto Cuts category.

    As for the Auto Cuts, we took like a week to review them and after many discussions and after reviewing every single one of them, we finally finished. At least for now. We decided that we should keep the Auto Cuts category but that we shouldn't accept ghosts that were way too short, unless they are really good exceptions. We had like 2.7 seconds long features, and that isn't acceptable at all. For now, we raised the minimum length to 10 seconds for Auto Cuts, and we are reinforcing the 15 seconds limit for other categories. 10-20 seconds long ghosts will have to be really good and usually have something that stand out on them, like a hard trick, nice routing, or an impressive speed overall. Same with exceptions, but in a superior level.

    So, with that said, we will later in this post talk about other suggestions, but let's see how things went with the Auto Cuts. We unfeatured 11 featured Auto Cuts, so it will cause several changes on the leaderboard. I put a brief review to justify our choices.

    AUTO CUTS:

    KEPT:

    frhd.co/t/1334/r/backtwice - Backtwice is the only one to ever complete the track in 7 years. I tried to beat this for years and got close 2 times, but it has some hard tricks to get right. Fits the minimum length.
    frhd.co/t/3147/r/eryp - Eryp made some tough cuts and really nice tricks throughout the whole track. Fits the minimum length even for fast ghosts, I think it deserves a spot on the list.
    frhd.co/t/52341/r/freelander2 - FreeLander2 Such a legendary ghost. In the words of Eryp: "Epitome of an autocut. Combines luck with skill to complete a previously unbeaten track."
    frhd.co/t/123735/r/hairy.landesburg788 - This one was among the most discussed ones. It's under 10 seconds, so if it was going to be featured it would have to be as an exception. We weren't in the same page all along but we eventually agreed that since it's on an iconic and popular track, it's way faster than the 2nd place and FunBunOne's ghost was featured I believe like even before featured Auto Cuts were a thing, and @hairy.landesburg788 beat him by a good amount of time, we decided to make this an exception.
    frhd.co/t/1051/r/notverygood - I tried this track and almost beat it with 2 different routes that were way faster than this. But it's really hard to get right. NotVeryGood's route is really hard to execute and since he's the only one who was able to beat the track in 7 years, and his ghost fits the minimum length, we will keep this featured. If someone manages to beat it easily and with a time that it's ridiculously short, we might reconsider. For now, we will keep this featured.
    frhd.co/t/721704/r/redorblue - This one was the ghost we discussed the most. It's pretty much as fast as it gets and it's super impressive, but it's kinda short. We thought about keeping it as a feature since it seems that no one was able to replicate this (aside of the obviously copied ghost) and there's a lot of skill involved. But if that changes and people are able to easily create similar ghosts, it might not hold forever on the list. RedOrBlue
    frhd.co/t/709759/r/skijumping - This is the longest one we have and it's way too legendary to remove, haha. Some skill, some luck, but it's a really good ghost that should stay on the list. Skijumping
    frhd.co/t/258545/r/totoca12 - We don't review our own ghosts, but Eryp thought that the routing on this was good enough, especially for a kinda long auto. It fits the minimum length and wasn't replicated so far.
    frhd.co/t/464750/r/xagefimuh - The ghost is great and definitely has some cuts impressive enough for a feature. 2 things put some doubts on our minds, though. First thing being a possible TAS case here (but we are not sure) and the other one being the fact it's under the 10 seconds mark. Ok, is a 9.97 long ghost, but it still qualify as an exception, but we decide to keep it featured for now. xagefimuh.
    frhd.co/t/428676/r/zycerak - We were a bit on the fence about this one, but in the words of Eryp: "He worked a long time to get this ghost, and given how many people have played it and tried this cut, the time gap between him and the next best ghost is super sick. Keep.". So we are keeping it. Also it fits the minimum length even as a fast ghost.
    frhd.co/t/8335/r/zycerak - Really impressive. Many great tricks, only one to complete a 7 year old THEPENGUINs/Cataclysm track. Also,fits the minimum length for the category. Really great job by Zycerak.
    frhd.co/t/9245/r/zycerak - This is the best auto cut in my opinion. That shouldn't be possible. The ride isn't smooth at all and you managed to collect all 7 stars without dying and still did it fast. No way it can be unfeatured. Also, it's over 20 seconds long, so the minimum length isn't a problem as well and you were the only one to complete the track.
    frhd.co/t/710226/r/zycerak - The skill on this is amazing. We weren't a 100% sure at first since it's kinda short, but it's definitely worthy of an exception. You were the only one to complete the track again.
    frhd.co/t/712645/r/zycerak - We weren't sure because nothing too crazy happens in the beginning, but the tricks from like the 8 seconds mark until the end were great. Also, since it fits the minimum length we decided to keep it featured.

    UNFEATURED:

    frhd.co/t/1405/r/eryp - It's a great cut and seems hard to replicate. But, for a long time the only exception we made for a ghost about 15 seconds long that had a death on it was in The Confused Ninja, that is a way harder track than this one. I think it's a good ghost, but we can't accept a short ghost like this with a death on it, unless it's legendary. Eryp goes now back to 2 features.
    frhd.co/t/725337/r/kazman - Way too short. Clear unfeature. Nice efforts, but we can't accept ghosts like this anymore.
    frhd.co/t/292666/r/kazman - I do like this ghost. It was my feature once but even when my ghost was featured, I never was 100% onboard with this idea. Of course, this is a better version of the ghost, and it's really hard to beat, but it's less than 10 seconds longer. I think the cut isn't hard to replicate, but it is hard to replicate as fast as you did. However, I think this could still be a feature if it was a bit longer, but since we changed the criteria for Auto Cuts a little bit, this ghost is now below the minimum length limit, and we don't think it's good enough for an exception. So, sadly, Kazman no longer has featured ghosts now.
    frhd.co/t/516985/r/redorblue - It's not bad, but we think it's worse than the one we kept, that it's already bordeline for us. Also, it's even shorter, so it isn't good for an excepton. Unfeature.
    frhd.co/t/8998/r/redorblue - Tied by many people since being featured, it's way too short for a feature and it's definitely not good enough for an exception. RedOrBlue goes back to 25 features.
    frhd.co/t/9007/r/totoca12 - Eryp said it's improvable and I agree with him, it's not that fast. The good part of the ghost is that final trick that is hard to get right, but we don't think it makes the ghost good enough for an exception, since it's under 10 seconds. I went back to 5 features.
    frhd.co/t/153371/r/zycerak - Does the auto part of this track really matter? The ride most of the time flows like a normal track, but it's shorter than 15 seconds, so we can't move to the Fast Ghosts category. I am 3rd and 4th on the track so I know that the track isn't that hard, but it's pretty hard to complete as fast as you did. The ghost is 10.10 seconds long and it's on a legendary track, so it was really on the fence for us. But we agreed that the ride is a bit more like a normal track, so I guess it could have stayed if it was like 15 seconds long. But it isn't.
    frhd.co/t/628028/r/zycerak - On the fence as well. Not bad but you messed up the first landing a little bit and the most impressive part was the ending, the rest was ok. It wasn't a clear decision, but we decided to unfeature this one as well.
    frhd.co/t/620859/r/zycerak - 4 players did the track with similar times, so we don't think it's that impressive. Also, tetrationiscool had a better run until the end.
    frhd.co/t/61987/r/zycerak - You did over half of the track as the automatic part goes and pretty much only cut a second in the final time. Not bad, but not that good.
    frhd.co/t/706346/r/zycerak - Really dope ghost. But we think it's too short now. Zycerak goes back to 11 features.

    OTHER GHOSTS:

    NOT FEATURED:


    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/692190-hold-left-collob-ft-green-d/r/foxgamingtm - Really dope, but not there yet for us, that slow motion part killed the flow a little bit. We are definitely aiming for auto cuts this long, though. Saves at the 2.7 seconds mark and at the 17.9 seconds mark were really dope. It has a lot of potential, since it's a longer track and what you tried is really hard to do, but there's still some room for improvement in the ghost. FoxGamingTM
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/715818/r/invaluable - This is a nice ghost. The tricks are great, there's flips, wheelies, uses of the teleport and the antigravity powerups, but we feel that this is too short. Not only in time, since we have featured trickghosts that are this long, but it's a bit short on tricks. For a track with so many different elements like this one the ghost is way too straight to the point for us. Like, if the track you are making your trickghost on requires some inevitable ride through sections to its completion, you should make sure that your ghost is long enough to not make these transition moments stand out so much. Also, you should always try to explore the track as much as you can in a trickghost, and you didn't exactly do that here. Still a great effort, though. You are in the right path invaluable.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/724857-blob-trial/r/labibzaydandy - This seems to be a fast blob ghost, but since it's kinda short I don't think that the track seems hard enough. Blob ghosting is kinda new so it's hard to tell if this is as optimized as it gets, but it looks definitely like a good ghost. We don't think it's a feature, though, but major props to you LabibZaydandy for pushing the blob ghosting community further. Maybe we can soon have a better set bar for this kind of ghosts, but for now it doesn't seem insane enough with the difficult and length.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/456056-gone/r/mR..A - Great ghost, but it seems old. The beginning was good, although maybe sligthly improvable (as we can see on Reborn's and Eryp's ghost) and everything else looks good, but we think it could be done a little bit faster, so we are challenging you guys to maybe try to beat this ghost, that might not be that far from a feature.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/1123-forever-falls/r/trainer_bob - Solid race between Eryp and Trainer_Bob, but we put this one here to encourage people to do the cut they did and try to beat this ghost.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/731302-new-track/r/sproxy - I hope it's just a continuation of that Zycerak joke, lol.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/672732-matrix/r/orangegal23451 - Not 1st place, too easy, too short. First place isn't worthy.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/731876-for-kazman/r/stevie.t - Nice try on wheeling the whole climb, but didn't quite work 100%. Wheelies and flips on the final part were dope, though. You already have one featured trickghost, that is quite good, so we know you have the potential to get another one. Nice efforts on this one, but it's a no.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/290532-newport-ft-mr-a/r/stevie.t - Control was on point, you handled the balance in the wheelies quite well, but it was a bit monotonic. Of course we have ghosts that are featured that have like someone wheeling the whole track, like mR..A's and Tuttifruity's, but that wasn't the case here. You wheelied most of the track, but not the whole thing, so I guess you should have added some more tricks. Control was great, but it lacked variation of tricks, and the speed and flow weren't that impressive, since you didn't take many risks. We liked the ghost, this is the right path, but this isn't there yet.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/731345-abandoned-skate-park/r/stevie.t - You did take more risks on this ghost, and it's definitely a longer and better ghost, with many more tricks. But, the consistency is slightly off this time. Some wheelie fails at the 6, 17, 22 and 25 seconds marks. You didn't quite get to do the wheelie you wanted to do between 1:08 and 1:14 as well. Also, you didn't take any risks and had way too much missed opportunies in the last 10 seconds, like the wheelie that didn't work and the opportunities for flips that were missed, both in the air and in the gorund. Other than that it was good. From the 1:24, like 1 minute was good, but we don't think it was enough to a feature. The flips were great, though.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/487187-not-a-lonely-cloud-anymore/r/stevie.t - This one is not bad. Less mistakes than the previous one. Obviously it's shorter, but it's better. It annoyed us that you did the same trick 5 times, despite being on a short track and the fact it was really well-executed. Flips were amazing again, but the wheelies aren't 100% perfect, which helped to put us on the fence again. Like, we have some repetitive trickghosts like RedOrBlue's and some of mR..A's, so that's not really the problem, but the problem is that this track has a ride that isn't very smooth all the time, so it's hard to flow that well. The bad thing about this is that your ghost doesn't flow 100% well all the time, but the good thing is that the slightly harder ride makes it a bit more impressive. Still, the repetitiveness of the ghost made us lean towards not giving this a feature, since the ghost wasn't perfect already, although very good.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/54135-blu/r/trickghost - Great ghost that was suggested, but rejected by RedOrBlue himself. We think it's a good one, but there's a bit of room for improvement, so we would like to challenge you guys to beat (or improve) this ghost.

    UNFEATURED:

    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/314531/r/ninjasparkour - This is a rare case, I can recall just 3 or 4 times that this happened before, one of them with my own ghost. Since we were reviewing invaluable's and Stevie.T's trickghosts, we used some ghosts in comparison and realized that this ghost from Ninjasparkour doesn't quite fit today's standards for trickghosting anymore. For those who don't know, this ghost by Ninjasparkour is one of the oldest trickghosts of the thread, and it's possible that it is the first one received by someone who isn't mR..A. We think it is a good ghost , but it's really old. It's a nice ghost and he made like 9.5 flips in 15.03 seconds, but he didn't do many wheelies, endos or other tricks. Our main problem with this ghost is that we didn't feature ghosts like this one: https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/729473-my-first-detailed-level/r/Arrows_Alt, that has 12 flips in 15.13 seconds mainly due to the fact it didn't have many wheelies and other tricks as well. I know that it's kinda mean to remove trickghosts, especially one that has been on the list for so long, but it happened before and I even did it to my own trickghost that was featured by mR..A because I didn't think that it matched the standards. At the end of the day, we have to be consistent and coherent with our own criteria, and if we rejected so many ghosts like Arroww's, we shouldn't have this ghost featured. Ninjasparkour goes back to 4 features.

    NEW FEATURES:

    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/542537-5-min-offroad/r/madara - Really good ghost. Solid victory over great ghosters like TuttiFruity, mR..A, Synchronized, HyperCube and others in a track that is quite long. We didn't see any really relevant mistakes, so we think it should be featured. 39th feature for Madara.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/1184-contest-entry/r/eryp - Anyone familiar with this track knows that the ride is really painful. mudkip's ghost was almost featured a couple of times and Eryp was always trying to beat him over the years. Finally, after 7 years in a popular track, Eryp became the first one to do this track deathless, and although there's still like 1 relevant mistake, the ride is hard enough to consider this ghost a feature. So, congrats Eryp! Back to 3 features.

    ADDITIONAL OBSERVATIONS:

    1 - No matter if you keep more than 5 features or not from now on, TuttiFruity and BrendanMagill still should receive the Recognized Ghoster medal. TuttiFruity doesn't have 5 features anymore, but you still reached the mark of 5 features in this new era of the thread, so you should receive it.
    2 - Kazman will sadly be removed of the list, but feel free to send some cool ghosts from you or go try to beat a featured ghost, haha.
    3 - Will update the main post as soon as I can.
    4 - If we missed a ghost or if you want a more detailed review of one of your suggestions or even if you disagree with some of the decisions, let us know.
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2020

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