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List Official Featured Ghosts

Discussion in 'Races' started by mR..A, Oct 31, 2016.

  1. Totoca12

    Totoca12 Administrator Staff Member Administrator Forum Moderator Ghost Moderator Team Truck Official Author

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    So, as we are starting to gain an incredible amount of features, I am trying to be careful with approving new features. Also, when we passed like 100 features total, I made a comment saying that in many ways we raised the bar a lot, compared to what the list were when it first started. I once had a featured ghost on Egyptian Empire with 20.93. Now, Anonyymi has the feature with 18.67.

    The times changed. And in my comment I said that maybe we should check if every ghost in the list really deserve to be on the list as it is nowadays. It isn't supposed to be easy.

    As I said this comment, mR..A said that it might be a good idea to review some old ghosts and I took the advice. Also, since Whisk is kinda gone, and I'm doing it all by myself, I need to be sure about what I'm doing.

    Most of your ghosts are like still under review because they're new and also, I'm learning how to better analyze and judge helicopter ghosts now, so I'm just making sure that my criteria are fair and consistent.

    Most of the other ones under review are some old features ghosts that I'm taking a good look on them to see if they're really worthy, or are new ones as well or even are the fast ghosts with tricks, because I don't know if this need to actually be a thing.

    I would like some extra feedback on the ghosts under review from someone else. Initially I meant Whisk, and I hope he can see this soon, but feel free to share your opinions about them.

    PS:This under review thing will end soon
     
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  2. I don't think you should get rid of old ghosts on the list. if no one can beat them then it must be good.
     
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  3. Totoca12

    Totoca12 Administrator Staff Member Administrator Forum Moderator Ghost Moderator Team Truck Official Author

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    I understand. I don't plan to do anything like this unless I really think some ghost isn't that worthy. And even if there's a case like this I'll like to hear you guys thoughts on the matter.

    I guess we might have to rethink some of the criteria in order to keep some ghosts, though.

    For example: unspoken's feature and DblU's feature are really awesome and mostly consistent ghosts, but they have for sure a amount of the deaths way bigger than the usual. Yes, I get it, they are in long tracks and sometimes hard ones to complete fast, but at the same time so are like some of those tube ghosts from Slayed for example, who had some deaths but were still impressive, yet not featured.

    There's other debates, like the fast ghosts with tricks. They're not as impressive as trickghost neither as fast ghosts, but they're kinda a cool combination. Still, it's a hard category to control, and actually a weird one.

    Also, some ghosts like my ghost on ghosting tunnel are like really great but it works more like a fast ghost with tricks than a fast ghost itself. And it's under review because I'm reviewing the concept of this "category". Also might be too short.

    And like this one, there's some ghosts that might be worthy of a debate.
     
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  4. Anonyymi

    Anonyymi ♂♂ Ghosting Legend Ghost Moderator Team Truck Ghoster Of The Decade (2014-2024) Official Author

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    I think it's a good idea that you remove more than just 1 or 2 ghosts from the list since people have improved and the list is getting pretty big. Also I don't mind going back and reviewing some of the older ghosts. For example, we have a lot of very standard offroad ghosts, some more exciting some a bit less exciting, so maybe just keep the better half on the list.
     
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  5. Madara

    Madara eesoncanaocee Ghosting Legend Official Author

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    I can replace whisk if you want lol, if he's really gone am always active but anyways it's not up to me. And most of what you said is correct so i'll give you my opinion on the UR ghosts. And see what you like and hopefully help you.
     
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  6. Madara

    Madara eesoncanaocee Ghosting Legend Official Author

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    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/642843-beast/r/mr..a this is a nice fast ghost. but it has nothing special. any good spacebarrer with some luck and some serious desire to beat mR..A can do it.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/287310-underground-escape-contest/r/zycerak this ghost is really nice. it could be improved but really good especially the heli part. imo it should stay a feature.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/195874-ghosting-tunnel/r/totoca12 this is really good. yes a bit short but still great endurance it should stay a feat.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/602609-ocean-isles-ft-nefarious/r/Reborn this is a really nice ghost, idk why is it UR? let it stay it has great cuts and really good endurance.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/573939-escape/r/tetrationiscool the ghost is very good but the 2 deaths aren't. this is great but it's not a feature imo.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/2468-mindtrip-aquariums/r/Rhodium https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/631619-cavernous-exploration/r/rhodium these two are very good, definitely beatable but good. it should stay because both are creative with a nice cut or two.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/1127-100-jumps-no-cp/r/brendanmagill tbh i don't think this should stay. yes it's long and yes it needs very good endurance. but it's a smooth track after all.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/201964-heli-trial/r/freakyk.t i tried to beat my time many times. failed all the times. as you said it's semi-perfect. i don't think it's fair to say stay a feat or not on my tracks.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/557255-robot-heli-1/r/freakyk.t this is a really nice one. it's fast.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/495745-heli-levels/r/freakyk.t very good. maybe a bit short idk, but very good.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/508734-dry-cave-labyrinth/r/freakyk.t did 2 shortcuts, very fast and smooth. and yes 1 death and i am still trying to beat it.
     
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  7. Madara

    Madara eesoncanaocee Ghosting Legend Official Author

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  8. Slayed

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    Thats gotta be a joke right
     
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  9. TuttiFruity

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  10. Madara

    Madara eesoncanaocee Ghosting Legend Official Author

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    Idk why you hate me lol. What you got against me? I was offering help if he wanted it that's all. It's correct am no match for whisk. But i can help.
     
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  11. mR..A

    mR..A i didn't break the habit Ghosting Legend VIP Team Balloon Official Author

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    Totoca12 you're doing great man i know it's all a lot to manage, but the updates don't need to be daily and you're handling it well so far

    if whisk is not around much and you genuinely need someone else to help let me know and i can sort something out :thumbsup:
     
  12. Totoca12

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    Thanks, man. I'm doing my best.

    Also, will try to reach out to Whisk, see if I can talk to him about this. Otherwise, I might PM you later.
     
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  13. Totoca12

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    Cool. I can't guarantee to necessarily follow or agree with all of the feedback you may give, but if you want to share your thoughts about some old (or new) ghosts, feel free to do it. It's a community after all and I'm pretty sure you are qualified enough to share some good thoughts.

    Thank you for the feedback anyways. It might be a time for rethink a few things about the list.
     
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  14. Totoca12

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    Thank you for the feedback, it's still helpful in some level, but let's not quit on Whisk yet. Also, you guys can always share some thoughts about the ghosts if you want. Let's do it! It's useful and it helps the refinement of the list.
     
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  16. Reborn

    Reborn Forum Legend Rotten Flesh Official Author

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    'Fast ghost with tricks' is a garbage category because those ghosts only arise when someone messes up a fast ghost and manages to salvage it somewhat, doing a trick in the process. None of those ghosts are intentional, which makes them undeserving of a feature. If someone sets out to make a trick ghost that is also fast then it should be judged on its merit as a trick ghost (i.e. how impressive the tricks are). If someone sets out to make a fast ghost then it should be judged on its merits as a fast ghost (i.e. if it is the fastest ghost on that track).
     
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  17. Madara

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  18. Totoca12

    Totoca12 Administrator Staff Member Administrator Forum Moderator Ghost Moderator Team Truck Official Author

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    POSSIBLE UPDATE, CONSIDERATIONS AND THOUGHTS ON THE GHOSTS UNDER REVIEW:

    I agree. Fair points.

    Ghosts most likely to be unfeatured:

    So, the onLY "fast ghost with tricks" that is featured and it's not 1st place in the track is this Whisk's ghost:
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/57539-pollution/r/whisk

    I find this ghost amazing, but it's not suitable for a fast featured ghost, and probably not enough for a featured trickghost. So I'm considering unfeaturing it.

    Other cases to consider:
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/2468-mindtrip-aquariums/r/Rhodium
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/631619-cavernous-exploration/r/rhodium

    Both ghosts are good and cool to watch, the first one I said it could be a fast ghost with tricks, but just like Whisk's ghost, might not be enough for a fast ghost or trickghost feature. The second one is great, has a great flow in the antigravity part, but it's not quite perfect. It has some parts that could be improved like around 22-25 seconds. So I'm considering unfeaturing those as well.

    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/642843-beast/r/mr..a
    This is good, don't get me wrong, but I don't think it's enough to be on the list. We have SO MANY offroad featured ghosts and this one don't bring anything new. Also, Anonyymi was faster in some spots, so I'm sure it can be improved. It's has potential, though, but it's not there yet.

    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/1127-100-jumps-no-cp/r/brendanmagill
    I know, I suggested this ghost.It's long, requires endurance, but it's smooth jumps after all. Good ghost, but I don't think it should be on the list.

    Ghosts that I'm still unsure:

    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/495745-heli-levels/r/freakyk.t

    Great ghost, but it's like this one (https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/499876-helicopter-trials/r/freakyk.t) but slightly less cool. I think that you have better ghosts than this already on the list FreakyK.T . This is still a good ghost, though. Not sure yet if I'm keeping or not.

    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/508734-dry-cave-labyrinth/r/freakyk.t
    Excellent ghost, without the death it's a feature. As the ghost isn't long, I might not keep it if you can't improve. It's kinda sad, I know. I'm not 100% sure, but it's a 26 seconds long ghost, I don't think we have another ghost this short with a death on it that is on the list. So, keep trying in order to guarantee the ghost on the list.

    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/191253-magnum-opus/r/dblu
    Not to start any controversy, but I watched the whole thing recently, and it's an awesome ghost, but has a large amount of deaths. If we are aiming for a more strict list, I don't know if it's worthy. Might be, but I don't know. Again, I always loved the ghost, just putting here in order to you guys to see which ghosts I'm analyzing right now.

    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/1076-contest-entry/r/unspoken
    This ghost is great. Insanely consistent for the most part, but it has a certain number of deaths towards the end. Since it has half the lenght of DblU's ghost, I think it's fair to discuss this one as well.

    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/287310-underground-escape-contest/r/zycerak
    Almost sure that I'll keep it. But it's probably could be improved around the 7-9 seconds mark, but it's good.

    Ghosts under review that I'm keeping for sure:

    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/602609-ocean-isles-ft-nefarious/r/Reborn
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/195874-ghosting-tunnel/r/totoca12
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/201964-heli-trial/r/freakyk.t

    Great ghosts. Keeping it for now

    PS: Yes, I'll make the final decision, but I would like to hear you guys thoughts on THESE SPECIFIC GHOSTS. Say if you think they deserve to be on the list or not and why. Appreciate any feedback.

    Reborn Anonyymi FreakyK.T Whisk crazywizard_13 and anyone willing to give your thoughts on this.
     
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  19. Chaos-Fallen

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    I agree for the most part with all of your opinions on these ghosts. But a couple, I disagree with.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/2468-mindtrip-aquariums/r/Rhodium
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/631619-cavernous-exploration/r/rhodium
    These two, again, have minor but very apparent mistakes and areas to improve upon during them. Also, they have no other "fast" ghosts to compare them to. But the thing with these ghosts, is it isn't like Mr..A 's recent feature on the "daily climb 4" track or whatever it was. Because the daily climb track had no attention at all and had no good ghosts other that Mr..A 's. At the time of the feature, maybe 5-6 people had even completed the track. With Rhodium's two features here, they were both on recognized tracks, both in the random track generator so that anyone would play the track. The fact that people aren't close to his ghosts is because both tracks are not easy completion tracks and his ghosts, although they have mistakes are extremely impressive ghosts. And that is why I believe that these two ghosts should stay features.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/191253-magnum-opus/r/dblu
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/1076-contest-entry/r/unspoken
    I definitely agree with your thoughts, they have a handful of deaths, and most features as stated in Mr..A 's description of what a feature should look like, a minimal amount of deaths. But what's different about these two ghosts, is that they are long, endurance tracks that require precision over periods countless times longer than most featured ghosts. If anyone could ever possibly manage a no death ghost that is fast on either of these tracks, I'm pretty sure that's 10 featured ghosts in its self. Although I do agree with your point about the deaths, I do strongly believe that these ghosts are more than worthy of staying featured.
     
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  20. Wolf777

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    I know that im not a good enough ghoster to get on this list, but here is my opinion https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/287310-underground-escape-contest/r/zycerak
    Think it could be improved by as much as a half of a second at the 7-9 second mark and at two spots after that. Id like to see Anonyymi or FreakyK.T try it.
    https://www.freeriderhd.com/t/602609-ocean-isles-ft-nefarious/r/Reborn
    Its a great ghost, but mR..A was about a second ahead a bit past the minute mark. Could certainly be improved.
     

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