Religion?

Still suprised this didn't turn into a big fight, but I've been raised with the belief that there is a god, but he/she a) does not exist anymore or b) does not want to be worshiped. Most of my family is more Spiritual, but I guess I'm a middle, gray area. Does that make sense?

 

I worship Heqet, the Super Best Friends pantheon, and the Spider Queen. All other gods are false.

 

However, I do make an allowance for exceptionally corny religions. Heqet has probably prepared a sort of amphibious purgatory for them.

 

Something nice I wanted to share, take it in your own ways

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I just visited a church of Quakers for a comparative religion project and had a positive experience. The meeting consisted of 30 or so chairs in a circle facing inward, and proceeded in silence unless someone felt the need to share something. It was different from Catholic or Christian Masses because there was no priest or altar or scheduled ceremony. It was spontaneous, and nobody felt pressured to do anything. At the end of that, everyone turned to whoever was sitting next to them, shook hands and said "good morning".

After that, we got a chance to interview two Quakers, a man and a woman. They informed us about their beliefs that everyone has an inner light and personal journey that nobody can map out for them. There is no specific ceremony or need to be a Quaker, it is completely up to the person's choice. Quakers branched off from Christianity in the 1600's so they are based on believing in the light of Jesus, but don't believe that if you deny him you will go to Hell. They accept anyone, any race, beliefs, background, or sexual preference. (in fact, one was openly gay)

It was different than I expected, because unlike Catholicism and Christianity where they say that they don't judge, the Quakers really do not judge people. And somehow, they make it work.

 

I'm christain, non denominational, strong believer

 

I went to one of their meetings for my Grandpa's memorial service. It was really boring, tbh. Not something for young people who can't get off their phones.

 

I wanna talk a little about what jaketocake posted earlier. God, the word that has been annoying me my whole life. What does it really mean? Who is it? What is it? The Simpsons and such have many times infected my mind with the picture that God has a personality, and that it is a being. During those times, I've not believed in God and have not had a name for the thing I believe in. I've thought that God does not exist, at least what Christians view as god. But then I've realized that they have only hijacked the word and made it mean what they want, which is not what it should mean in reality.
I've searched God in dictionaries, to see how they describe it.
Dictionary.com said:

"God
noun
1.
the one Supreme Being, the creator and ruler of the universe."​

There again, "being", "creator". Like it is someone. The word "God" might originally refer to a being, but that doesn't mean I want it to. So I guess this post is a protest of some kind.
"But master, what do you believe in then, and what do you really want to call god so much?" Well kids, sit tight and listen, master is going to tell you something that might be hard to understand. See what I've noticed over the course of my quite short life, is that certain things on earth work like a system. Somehow things seem related to others and it all seems like a very, very well designed system. And I'm not talking about the chemical, atomic world, that's way too complicated to touch on this post. All the natural things on Earth seem to have certain mathematical functions and reactions with each other that make them work together, like a machine that's programmed to run on it's own. The gazelles for example, won't overpopulate, because then would the lions as well, which would lower the amount of gazelles. Everything has a purpose, otherwise it wouldn't be here. I've talked earlier about the purpose of humans but this is not about that. See all this... All this balance of the world and the universe is what I believe in. A perfect system that works with certain laws, laws of nature. And this system is what I want to call god. I want to call the reason of the magical occurrences that happen in this world god. And when I really think about it, that's what we all have been calling god all along. We've had no explanation for these occurrences so we've created god to represent all of the reasons these occurrences have happened.

You feel like a person right? Like a big being? You feel that your body is your own and you control it? In reality, you're just the combination of millions of atoms and cells that continuously work together to run a big machine made of said millions of cells. Even your brains are just a combination of these cells, and works similarly to your body, passively, like a very, very complicated and well designed robot. Each of these cells are similar to you, they work passively as well and adapt to different situations with different functions. They have a memory, they can learn from mistakes and hits, and protect your body and mind from future attacks. I believe each of these cells are formed of atoms that work just like that and these atoms formed of electrons and protons and these electrons formed of something we've not yet discovered. The same goes for the universe and the world. We form god, just like the cells form us. We work together with nature and most noticeably with plants, producing carbon-dioxide for them and getting oxygen in return. We're part of a system, a planet called earth, that's working with other things in the universe that are part of their own systems, forming, you know it, God. I also believe all these systems and reactions and things that work together continue to infinity, so I am not sure what to define God as, only the Universe we currently know of, or everything, ever?

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To explain it a little:

Something deeper
Universe
Galaxies
Planets and suns
Earth
Life on earth
Cells
Atoms
Electrons and Protons
Something deeper​

That's what we currently know of, in layers (simplified) and God is either that or everything beyond that.

I'm gonna end this post in just a few words. But one more thing. What is math? Math is the ultimate language of logic. What is logic? It's a sense of ours, if a thing feels logical, it feels right according to certain rules, we don't usually know these rules, we just feel that this thing is logical. Math can be compared to the universe and god, completely. Everything is the same, just in different layers, and math is one layer created by us. I won't go into this deeper.

Thank you, and oh my god.

TL;DR: God is a system of the world that happens in different layers.

Master, the breeder of elephants, signing out.

P.S. I might edit some things in this a little later

 

I'm going to have to disagree with u EB, even if u've pretty well written the longest thing on this forum
What i want to know is how did everything get here? How did we come to be? How did the animals come to be, then the plants, water, oxygen, soil, rock and so on, how did that all appear? Are u trying to tell me that one day it all just.... Happened? What u have explained above is what u think is God NOW, not who God was 100 Billion years ago. That is partly y i believe in God. Imo, he created everything and allowed us to live and breed in this world. He created the world, then we inhabited it and changed it. But who knows which Religion is right? Technically, by any rites the Jewish religion is the correct one, as it started first. (Well, the first major religion anyway) From Judaism brought on Christians, which brought on Islam and so on and so forth. Every Religion has at least one thing in common, whether it is one overruling God or a prophet preaching a new religion, they all have links. So it really wouldnt surprise me if combined, all the religions together actually are correct.

 

EB Mark 3*

Me and Eastern come first in that department sonny boy.

 

God didn't create stuff. #scienceexplainsitall

 

Everything started with the Big Bang, supposedly. I believe nothing really "came to be" or was created from nothing, but instead has transformed from something else, meaning that everything has always been but changes its form continuously.

E; I'm pretty sure nobody really understood my earlier post, but I did and am proud of it anyways xD I've always struggled with putting my thoughts into words and you can believe it's even harder when english is not even my native language (though a lot of things are easier to explain in english than finnish because of the lack of words in finnish)

 

but where did the big bang come from? your saying that from a place of absolute and complete nothingness a giant explosion happened and it created everything in the world? think of how long it takes to build an airplane, compared to a bird, a plane is child's play in terms of the perfection of design. if it takes months and months to build an airplane, how could pure chance create a bird? or any animal? or even plankton?

 

Well, it's only a theory so it's only likely that it's true. (I have a bad felling that this will become an argument).

 

The question could even be this: If God created everything, what created God? Both theories have their points and their places of doubt.

 

what I'm trying to say is that modernist scientists are trying to explain what couldn't have happened. even they say that there was nothing at all to begin with, not even dust, but they're saying that an explosive just all of a sudden happened and created the universe.

 

First of all, think about it the Big Bang theory this way: Don't think about it. Don't try to understand things like that since all we can do is create different guesses and pick ones that seem the most logical and call it true.
Second of all, birds, animals, plants, they've all been created for a purpose. They are the reaction of the sunlight radiating to earth in a certain distance, the fact that we have water on Earth, the fact that Earth spins around itself and many more things. They are millions of atoms reacting together in that environment, that have started to work together and formed into big chunks of atoms and then bigger chunks of atoms and eventually creating biologic machines that recycle and keep millions of atoms moving. We're no different from the gas planets or stars actually. And the perfection of our planet comes from millions of years of work, adjusting to different situations and slowly evolving to what it is now.

 

so you're Darwinian, you trust in what one man said because you like his ideas and he convinced you. Hitler did the same ya know

 

So you believe that everything was suddenly created, just like that?

 

I've never read anything written by Darwin, I don't know anything about him. These are all my own thoughts. And why do you mention Hitler? Wtf? Just because one evil man had a certain opinion on things doesn't mean that everybody that do are evil right?