FRHD Chat Thread

It is very easy to tell what is going on here, honestly IDK why you guys think you still have an argument.

 

ha

 

I talked about the milankovitch mechanism which occurs in cycles of every 40,000 years, your arguments are completely idiotic and you are actually acknowledging that carbon dioxide causes global warming. It pains me to see that you will never know how truly stupid you really are.

 

what your chart shows: a correlation between co2 concentration and temperature

what we currently have: a co2 concentration of ~400ppm, an unprecedented high

draw your own conclusions from this

 

shek

 

I usually agree with you on most of the stuff we post in here, but I don't on this. Elon Musk didn't pull out of a climate change board, he pulled out of Trump's economic strategy advisory board. And yeah, he may be flying a private jet but I could guarantee that his house is ten times more energy efficient than any of ours, especially knowing the companies that he heads up. Trump's decision to pull out of the Paris Climate Agreement isn't even possible yet. In the agreement, it states that a country has to give a one year notice before it withdraw's from the agreement, and no country can do so until three years after it went into effect. That means Trump cannot pull the US out of it until November 4th 2020 which is on election day. Political scientists are saying that it will most likely become the focal point of the next election.

Also, the interesting is that there is no penalty if a country fails to meet the expectations and pledges made in the agreement. The agreement essentially relies on peer pressure from other country's which will have the same effect if/when the US pulls out. Its honestly a stupid decision by Trump and could lead to him not being re-elected.

Fore the record, I think global warming is a problem, but I don't think it is nearly as bad as what it's made out to be. I think its a combination of natural heating of the earth in cycles and of human impact. A lot less human impact than what people think. However, I still completely agree with the Paris Agreement.

 

What do u mean 400 parts per million is unprecedented. There have been times where it has neared EIGHT THOUSAND.

There have been ice ages when the ppm has been as high as 2000

The Earth essentially is in a CO2 famine as of right now

 

ur just gonna get proved otherwise every time guy

 

Save the polar bares

 

And them likewise

 

that was literally millions of years ago, earth is a much different planet now my friend

it hasn't been even 75% as high in over 800,000 years according to your chart... this is a pretty huge break in the trend that the climate has followed for nearly the past million years, and it just so happens to take place at the exact same time we start relying on burning fossil fuels, etc. on a worldwide scale? it follows the same pattern for a huge amount of time and just so happens to deviate from it massively in the <100 years or so since human greenhouse gas emissions have been produced on a large scale?

how willfully ignorant can you be? what will it take for you to admit that this is obviously human-caused?

 

I'm not saying its not caused by humans, I am just trying to say, like in my original post, that global warming is not a problem.

 

back when earth's co2 levels were as high as you mentioned human life wasn't around, i'd prefer not to experiment on our species to see if we can comfortably survive in the type of climate that comes with it

if you have no problem with this, that's your prerogative

 

"And yeah, he may be flying a private jet but I could guarantee that his house is ten times more energy efficient than any of ours"
yeah this house is certainly lower energy than my 1 bedroom acreage house where I'm gone 9 hours a day & turn off the AC when I ain't there, all of the lights, and unplug many appliances, amps, tvs etc

 

Hmm, funny how the picture you provided is from the Northwest side of the house, opposite of where solar panels would go (they go on the south side of roofs in America cause the sun is more south). See if you actually get a picture from that south side, you find that there is a series of panels that wouldn't even fit on the roof of my 2 story, 4 bedroom home. I did some further reading, and while he is user solar power for most of his electric, he can't make up for all of it because he doesn't have enough flat, unobstructed south facing roof space. So yes, he is still using some power from the grid, but I never said that he wasn't. In fact, my original statement still holds true that his house is more energy efficient. It may use much more energy than many of our homes, but it is more efficient about where it gets that energy and how it is saved. And honestly, expecting that Elon Musk wouldn't use solar power and high efficiency energy practices in his own home is like expecting that Bill Gates would use a macbook as his daily laptop.

 

But the thing is, the CO2 levels have been that high and it is believed that the temperature was still relatively the same.

 

The side of the house wasn't deliberate, you give me way too much credit. Those solar panels btw are not nearly enough to suffice.

And yes, you were absolutely right about me being wrong on the climate change board thing (the entire paragraph I typed was a joke, almost zero punctuation, terrible spelling and grammar, etc), so as someone who claims to often agree with me, you should be able to differentiate between my serious and non-serious arguments. I also wrote right off the get-go that I don't give a **** about global warming, and why would I have a vast array of knowledge on something that I don't care about one way or the other. You also went on a tangent about how long Trump and America would have to stay in the paris wealth redistribution scam, which I touched on...nada. I said he, "pulled his kok" out of it, which is regarding his speech saying he wants to leave. Nowhere did I claim he was out, nowhere did I claim I had any idea on when he was leaving or able to.

The only serious point I made is that these climate "boards", "acts", or whatever you want to call them seem to require significant amounts of money, time and effort for very little outcome something like decades down the road. It also seems to me that huge carbon contributors from the third world are paying squat while America showers cash into it. Furthermore, here in Canada more and more taxes are being offered in relation to carbon, (what is taxing carbon honestly going to do to stop global warming? that's like taxing stupidity to raise IQ) which gives the liberals, in the short term, what they want; less fossil fuel development in western countries, but the demand for fossil fuels doesn't lose any ground. We simply have to import it from countries with less or zero environmental regulation, which is not only worse for the environment on that aspect but also using fossil fuels to deliver fossil fuels is astoundingly stupid when we have it right here in our grounds. Canada, and more specifically Alberta, are sitting on huge oil deposits. Wouldn't it make more sense to stimulate our own economy, buy our own energy, actually implement our own regulations and not have to ship it such a ways? What are we going to use the oil sands for anyway, they're useless if not to dig fuel from them.

^ this point you conveniently did not touch on, so if you could point me to evidence showing that carbon taxes and climate boards are not wealth redistribution or...basically theft, that'd be great.

 

uugghh this is sooooo boring.

 

if u expect any member of the elite to live like a nomad just to prove their eco-friendliness you're retarded lmao

if you made billions of dollars you too would build the most wasteful extravagant mansion possible, so dont act like he's a shithead for not leading by example. often people pioneering change and innovation aren't entirely innocent themselves, but that doesn't mean they can't stand for a cause