Presidential Debate

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Caught today's debate towards the end, Hillary practically avoided the entire last question and went so far off topic, then Trump actually gave a straight answer. It was what they respected in the other candidate.
Hillary respects trumps children
And trump called Hillary a fighter and person who doesn't give up, and that they are good traits to have.
That's what I saw.

 

watch the rest of the debate

 

I will later.

 

Both candidates are horrible on the defensive but Trump prevailed tonight by far in my opinion. He's excellent on the offensive and finally twisted the knife in the wound a little. Very pleased with his performance tonight, I was hoping tonight for him to revive a bit of my faith in his future win and he did. After the petty emotional drama regarding his locker room talk, I thought it was over for him and it might very well be, but let's hope American voters are smarter than their emotions.

 

the fact hillary could come up with anything to answer that question after the debate was pretty incredible. even before the debate it would have been near impossible to compliment mr. trump on anything, let alone after his performance tonight.

 

It was completely a 3 on 1, moderators and Hillary on Trump, but Trump still prevailed
Trump amazed me tbh, he was so much different than last debate how he was calm, strong, all there in the head and not sarcastic or mean
overall though, this debate was better then the last one as in that the candidates did interrupt of go off topic as much
and i really liked that last question

 

*Republican nominee talks about engaging in sexual assault, calls it emotional drama*

 

Both sides have allegations of sexual assault. In Bill's case, it actually was investigated, and potentially in Trump's case too. (But what good does investigating the Clintons do? They'll never be charged for anything) Many women claimed he abused them, and they also claimed Hillary hounded & bullied them when they were going public about it. Do I believe any of this? Not particularly. Do I believe Trump sexually assaulted women? Not particularly. Until these claims are substantiated, I'll continue to dismiss it as "emotional", especially because liberals win on emotional votes. That's the basis of Hillary's opening at the debate. She kissed ass immediately to those asking the questions and tries to dismiss Trump on his rudeness. "Omg look how rude he was to women, vote for me because I take in money from countries that actually oppress women and refuse to criticize the one ideology & culture that is currently oppressing and killing the most people!"

 

#1: I think most of us can agree that this election is really choosing the lesser of two evils. Like picking to drown or burn to death.
#2: Its a bit unfair to say liberals win on emotional votes, like if you are a republican you aren't going to go with the guy that seems like the biggest douche. You pick the person that has the best ideas and who talks about things that are important to you. Thats emotional wouldn't you say?

 

And Trump is the drowning. Much less painful.

Then let me rephrase; emotional vote is more of a priority to liberals. It seems to me that the left is more focused on social issues like racism vs. things like the failing economy, rising unemployment, crap health care system and radical Islam. (I guess the left mentions Islam a bit but it's nothing but positivity for such a barbaric ideology, which further proves my point because they won't criticize it due to seeming "racist" or "islamophobic")

 

If you view Trump less painful that fair and its your right. But either way you die.

I can see how it may seem that liberals are more focused on social issues than other things, but you have to consider the other part of the Democrat party that does focus on more economic issues, the health care system, terrorism, etc. I like Hilary because her plans are more straightforward and really focus on taking something bad into something good. For example how she laid out her plan last night to fix the issues surrounding Obama care.

 

I just hate how the libs/democrats deal with terrorism. They are far too concerned with appeasing the feelings of moderates. They keep trying to distance Islam from terrorism even though the terrorists claim the name of Islam before, during and after the attacks.

That point I can concede, she was more straightforward on her responses regarding healthcare, the problem I have with the fixes they propose is that it starts to slowly turn USA's healthcare into Canada's. Canada's seems great to the less wealthy but Trump was right on the money when he said that Canadians go down there for surgeries and treatment all the time. I know people personally who've done it, it's just worth it for them to pay, and free healthcare gets abused by people with problems that do not need treatment. Our healthcare in Canada was actually declared a human rights violation because of the wait times. I don't know the specifics on that case though.

 

• social issues are important whether you like it or not; for many people, voting democrat vs republican could be the difference between your ability to marry your partner or not, or your ability to legally and safely get an abortion or not - that's not the type of thing to sweep under the rug as "emotional voting". these are issues with as tangible (or in some cases, more) an effect on people's lives as those you mentioned afterwards. speaking of those...
• "things like the failing economy" - the economy actually isn't doing that poorly. it's stagnating a bit, sure, but "failing" is by far an overstatement. either way, trump's policies emphatically fail to deal with this in economically-sound way. like it or not, you cannot bring manufacturing jobs back to the united states and have them compete with a world economy that undercuts their price significantly. trump as a businessman should know that if companies have the option to have things produced by u.s. workers for a fair wage vs a chinese sweatshop for pennies on the dollar, they'll turn to the chinese sweatshop every time. i have the utmost sympathy for manufacturing sector workers who's jobs have been made irrelevant, but that's the unfortunate reality of things. as for the other aspects of his plan, pretty much all of the serious economic analysis i've read has said the same thing about them: that they're misinformed, ineffective, and overall harmful to the economy. for anyone interested: data-heavy analysis: 1 2 and, for some easier reading, a written analysis by the economist that i strongly agree with: check this out
• "rising unemployment" - unemployment is on a steady downward trend and is at it's lowest since the recession and has basically returned to pre-recession levels, source
• "crap health care system" - i agree the healthcare system isn't great currently. what to do about this i guess depends on your ideal vision of the healthcare system; personally i prefer clinton's approach of cutting the fat from obamacare and enhancing its effective aspects, but i won't act like it's a flawed position to want to repeal it and implement a more "free market" solution.
• "radical Islam" - the stance from democrats that i've heard (and agree with) is that we have to combat isis and other militant groups in the middle east (personally, this is a can of worms i haven't opened; i'm not too informed on the specifics of the goings-on in the middle east) and heavily screen refugees and immigrants from the area, while not barring them on basis of country of origin or religion alone. generally i think we should take a hardline stance against extremism, but make sure not to sacrifice the rights of many due to the actions of few. i personally believe the relevance of radical islam to this election is far, far overstated though, considering that the usa is huge and hasn't even been taking in as many refugees as many much smaller european countries

 

I think one of the biggest things with the Islam/Terrorist situation is realizing its not just Islam. And the problem isn't the religion itself its the people who take it that far. There are other countries that terrorist are coming out of (including America). Also what octo said. The economy isn't at its best right now but you have to factor in what it was like before Obama got elected. Whether you like him or not under the leadership of Obama we've come out of one of the biggest recessions this country has seen.

 

this is so good and so right

I vote liberal (or at least will vote liberal in a few years) because they seem to be the only ones to care about people. liberals tend to agree with me that climate change/global warming exists and is man-made, as opposed to their conservative counterparts, whose figurehead has been recorded saying that global warming was a lie fabricated by the chinese. liberals tend to agree with me that the syrian civil war and refugee crisis needs to be solved. of course, I'm sure conservatives care about the worst humanitarian crisis in a long time too, right? oh wait, they don't want to accept more refugees (who have very rarely been found to be involved in a terrorist or planned terrorist plot (would recommend watching this))! their party's nominee just last night suggested solving the crisis by allying with Russia, a country that has been carpet-bombing the whole country and has allied itself with Assad and his regime. I am voting liberal because my party's figurehead has not been quoted saying offensive statements against women, mexicans, muslims, or people with disabilities.
that is why I'm voting liberal.

 

good to see you have real reasons, many people just vote with no reasons


I personally do not consider myself Liberal or Conservative, but usually i tend to be on the Conservative side.
this election i am strongly supporting Trump because he is his own and not being controlled by media or a political party, I really like the way he has come and shown the truth and ways that no one has dared to do. I like his stand against the evils of this country that have been happening for so many years now.
If isis and all that **** are going to be destroyed it will be Trump that will remove them, not Hillary
Hillary is all words and no action

and my saying all of this i don't want you guys to think I believe Trump is some god, in fact there is many things I do not like about him most of it is what he has done in the past

 

I just can't get behind someone that has made racist, sexist, and just rude comments.

 

but you are perfectly fine behind someone who has defended rapists, stolen money donated to Haiti through Clinton foundation (one of the reasons Haiti is such a mess now), and ruined lives of countless people.
there is many more but I know I can't change your mind so I am not going to waste my time anymore...
good luck and make sure you are completely sure you have made your mind before you vote, if you are going to/old enough

 

Trump's jail comment cracked me up af