Human Superiority And Its Effect On Animals

why would people search for something that's already dead in a alligator. its completely useless, men have no internal feelings for something that will kill them. So they are maybe actually enjoying it.

 

If your saying that alligators shouldn't be killed because they don't know any better/ its their nature, than you could also say that if a branch from a tree fell and killed someone, the tree shouldn't be killed because it didn't know better, and its just it's nature- which seems pretty logical
but you could also say the same thing about humans, following this law of logic humans shouldn't be punished for murder either, its our nature isn't it? unless you think we are the only species with free will, why would we be the only ones unless were superior, maybe you think its not that we have free will but were naturally smart enough to make our own discussions. But how do you measure the level of intelligence, monkeys are pretty smart, shouldn't they be punished for murder? - just something I was thinking about but eventually this just leads to religion debate because of the whole free will thing

 

That whole thing on monkeys is answered in The Planet of the Apes movies. Very reccomended

 

lol I've seen it

 

No you haven't...

 

We condemn murder because of the morals prevalent in our society. Animals do not have morals, they do not repress anger and so they do not kill for evil reasons (by our definition). They do it because it is what they do, and it's impossible to expect them to live the way we decided to live. However, because we define murder as wrong, us doing it means we intentionally want to do wrong to others.
Your tree analogy actually makes a good point, a tree is as much a part of nature as any animal other than us is. Telling a tree not to lose its branch and kill someone is as likely to stop it from happening as telling a cheetah not to attack a person. But we don't kill a tree for doing it, yet we would kill the cheetah.

 

They didn't kill the dog in your pitbull story...

 

There are plenty of people in the world with a similar story that ends in their pet being killed.

 

But we don't know animal's incentives. We have animal psychologists but we don't know if they are 100% accurate. Our society teaches us that in most cases, causing death is punishable by death. That's how it works

 

alligators do not have feelings like people, and we do not want a person eating alligator in Florida i do believe

 

That's how it works for humans. We tell people, "don't kill" and when they do, they know they did wrong and take punishment for it. We tell an animal, "don't kill" and it wonders what the sounds coming out of our mouths are, then proceed to live its life normally.

Alligators feel pain, and I can assure you that they do not want to feel it or to die for that matter either. Again, every life is just as important as the other, we don't want people being eaten and we shouldn't want to mindlessly murder animals either.
In the case of this Disney attack, what should have happened was giving the child a proper burial, and ensuring people know the area has alligators to prevent further attacks. While both of these are definitely being done, there's no reason to kill any animal, it doesn't solve any problem.

 

You know... These ideas of yours can really get you places. And I know just the place

 

A high paying job in a well respected company? Maybe a year long vacation to an exotic island?
...Fed to lions maybe?

 

I was thinking something more like this: http://www.peta.org/

 

I don't tend to trust charitable organizations as large as them, but I wouldn't mind helping out on the issue of animal rights if I had the money and capability.

 

So let's say you get dragged off by an alligator towards its den but you fight that ***** off and survive, however, the fight took a significant toll on you and you are too weak to try and return to where you were dragged off. Let's say a day goes by and you are still alive, managed to drag yourself into some shelter, but the rescuers haven't found you yet. Would you like them to declare you dead and abandoned the search only to find your body 2 years later and realized they f'ed up? Yeah no, however, I'm not condoning the slaughter of these alligators, I'm sure there's some way you can tranquilize them and the take a little X-ray of their stomach or something.

it sure as shít wasn't the parents' fault, they were taking a family stroll on a supposedly safe family vacation resort and they stopped by a pond/lake, the little boy is at the edge of the body of water and is playing, both parents and his 4 year old sister are right there when suddenly the alligator snags him, his dad was in the water ASAP trying to get his on back, but after the alligator bit him (he had lacerations on the arm idk from what part of the alligators body) it as ale to escape with his son. The parents were vigilant and did their best to save their child, the mom ran into the water too I believe and as soon as it got away they notified a life guard. So definitely don't blame it on these poor parents.

 

If you're in the alligator, you're dead. If you're alive and on shore, they'll find you. They're not gonna go all out and try to see if you're in an alligator if you don't show up after a few days of searching. I'm not saying they'd abandon the search, I'm saying when they do they'd have searched efficiently because they didn't search the gator tummies.

 

lol no it's not, majority of the world doesnt use the death penalty
or rather majority 1st world countries

Not to mention that, no matter how hard you fight, you wont ever out-muscle a beast such as an alligator. Once it bites down, you aint getting out

 

thats why i don't live in that shitty state called Florida

 

ooooh, but miami looks so nice.