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    Discussion in 'Anything and Everything not Free Rider' started by FredGibson, Mar 29, 2016.

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    1. FredGibson

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      USA is 16trillion and China is 7trillion

      Plus, lower taxes so the worker gets the same or more in the end anyway
       
    2. Stig

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      Actually, I do live in the greatest country.

      http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/16/travel/undp-most-liveable-country/
       
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    3. TeamPhantom

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    4. Stig

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      Vote for bernie.
       
    5. armator

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      Maybe stop importing so many products and make them ourselves? More money would circulate here instead
       
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    6. FredGibson

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      Oh sayest the liberal media! You know i was speaking in terms of GDP and economy, not education and standard of living. Of course if everything in Scandinavia is covered in a layer of soft snow, and everyone is wearing 16 layers, the life expectancy will longer, its like going around tied to pillows!
      Yep, great idea in theory! But the problem is that labor unions and lack of a whole, committed workforce outside of illegal immigrants make it virtually impossible to do manufacturing efficiently and profitably in the states. Thats why we need to abolish unions, lower minimum wage, and grant legal status to the illegals in this country.
       
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    7. TeamPhantom

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      if ur saying america is better then norway, get a life
       
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    8. FredGibson

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      to quote stig, you cant compare them, they address different issues.

      Im actually of norweigen descent, so careful what u say! ;)
       
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      idc of what descent u are from still norge has it going way better then the US rn, look america is about to fall into ruins
       
    10. FredGibson

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      The figures dont lie, the US has the highest GDP and is climbing steadily. Id love to say that Norway is better, make my grandpa proud, but in terms of global economy the US trumps all with good old fashioned capitalist principals
       
    11. TeamPhantom

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      america is not the greatest country anymore, say what u like but it is NOT the greatest country, at one time it was and for now those days are over it seems
       
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    12. FredGibson

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      Say what u wanna say, let the words fall out. lol, no, but in all seriousness the results coming out of America still far exceed those of the other countries. No matter how bad Obama has been, there is still hope for America to remain #1. Socialism may work great for a country built off socialist principles, but for a capitalist country like the USA its no use........my grandpa came to this country from Norway looking for work. The USA hasnt tapped into their oil supply yet, and when we do it will leave norway so far in the dust they wont know what to say
       
    13. Stig

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      This is according to the United Nations. And has been for 12 years straight. Are you calling the world liberal?
      To have the world's biggest GDP without being the best country to live in, wouldn't that be considered a negative thing, and that your country isnt working out lol?
      The biggest GDP means nothing, when you also have the biggest dept in the world.

      You really ran out of arguments long time ago, and the rest of your posts, just further my point about socialism being the way out for USA.
      To continue down the same way like you always have, has brought you to where you are now, and it will continue with any politician who represent the same ideas that you've always gone by.
       
    14. FredGibson

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      Thank you for bringing up the debt, as i was planning to speak of that next. Our Debt before the Iraq war: $3,000,000,000,000 debt after the Iraq war $5,000,000,000,000. Debt after we have had a black liberal president in office for 7 years. $19,000,000,000,000.

      I can tell you our president does NOT share my ideas. Here are my ideas in a nutshell: abolish social security, funding for every social program and make them private donations only, make a flat tax of say.......20%. Remove nearly all government workers. Just let corperations run the country....say apple, boeing, coca-cola......all the big companies could buy shares. Let the country be run by people who know what they are doing, not by every old american
       
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    15. MikMox

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      Neither side seems to be able to prove their points effectively, so I'll just bring up new issue altogether!
      Global warming/climate change- what could/should nations do about it? And if you happen to be one of those who does not believe in global warming, please feel free to provide evidence supporting your cause. :D
       
    16. FredGibson

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      because economy is more of an issue than climate change...i prefer to debate on actual issues
       
    17. MikMox

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      I prefer saving the whales over saving the top 1% ;)
       
    18. FredGibson

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      WHALES ARENT PEOPLE!!! WHO F-ING CARES?
       
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      God
       
    20. FredGibson

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      OK, fair enough, but i dont see how drivng an electric car will save any whales.
       
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