Politics Thread

While I don't agree with all of Bernie's policies, it's hard to deny how real he is. He's probably the only candidate I'd want to legitimately have as my grandparent, he's just that cool of a guy
Kasich is a pretty reasonable candidate, but he has essentially no chance of winning the primaries, probably because he's too rational and decent.
Everyone else? They can inhale my dong

 

I woulda LOVED to have ben carson as my grandpa!!!

 

hillary 2016

 

ummm....why?

 

He looks constipaTED

 

I wonder if you know of a single thing he has flip flopped on.

 

He hasnt flip flopped on anything really. Unlike Donald Trump who flip-flops on health care, abortion, gay marriage, everything......i more think of Hillary as one to say whatever to get elected, as she says the exact same thing as bernie after he says it.

 

Cruz has flip flopped on immigration (especially immigration), fair trade, marijuana, foreign affairs, and others.
I could get links and articles for each, but I couldn't be assed.
I'm planning on voting for Cruz anyways so this argument is invalid

 

Cruz has always been anti-amnesty.........haha, cheers!

 

Two Words: Trump. 2016.

 

I like how you expressed socialist as a negative term, when all successful countries are in fact socialistic democracies.
This republican propaganda influenced way of thinking is why not good leaders get power, and might aswell be the reason why the USA is messed up in all the ways that it is.

Edit, sorry for the brutality, no offence

 

why shouldn't obama be able to elect the new guy in the court? it is his term under his power. that is like asking if it is the fourth quarter of a football game if the quarterback is allowed to throw the touchdown pass

 

The US is the most successful country in the world with the greatest impact on the economy and every large business that impacts the world, so ****

 

he can go ahead, but why bother, cuz the republican congress has the constitutional power to shoot it down

 

Yes, it is arguably one of the better countries when it comes to creating large corporations, and rich criminals, that have a lot of impact on the world economy. The same corporations and people that corrupt your leaders, and basicly are driving your country down the drain due to their own interests. Your entire system is based on a rich elite that runs your country for the benefit of their own, and not neccessarily the citizens.
Your welfare system and everything that it includes is absolute trash due to this fact.

Americans often portray themselves as the good guys in movies etc, but in reality, it is the biggest criminal/terror organization on this planet. Eventhough radical islam might be a thing to address, no threat will be as large as the threat USA makes to humanity. The citizens are merely puppets manipulated by nationalism and propaganda.

 

You only say that because you have been brought up under the veil of socialism and stalinism...................America is the land of opportunity, where if you are smart, you make it places. If you are dumb like some 80% of the population of course you wont get anywhere.....they dont expect for us to give them our money

 

If you empty your pockets, and pick up your moral compass, one which you should own since you claim to be religious, you should be able to tell that this nationalistic "land of opportunity" imprint is wrong. You think people should be awarded for being smart, while the ones who are not should be left out? How if your sister or brother were born less fortunate, or even yourself for that matter. Don't get me wrong, you are and should be allowed to do great things, and become awarded for doing so. But, the "land of opportunity" is an excuse to have your country's money redirected into the armed forces, and other arenas that may benefit the interests of the corporate elite. The "land of opportunity" is a perfect example of the nationalistic tools of propaganda that is being used to direct your opinions for their benefit. If you think the successful socialistic democracies have anything to do with stalinism, you're making it fairly easy for me to conclude that you don't know a single squat of what you're talking about.

 

OK, well this is a difficult argument for me to make with 2 forum moderators as opponents, but you really have to live in America to fully understand the American dream. I'll explain the best i could, but im sure there are others who could explain it better.

OK, so the year is 1776 and the founding fathers are SICK AND TIRED of getting taxed. They sign a document declaring their independence from Britain. After a quick war, America beats the British and forms the United States of America. The idea of this newly formed nation, is to restrict the national government to the point where the states only group together by reason of defense and trade. These conservative principles, set forward in a document Common Sense laid out how the country was to be run. Eventually the founding fathers realized that this document was not enough, and drafted a Constitution and a Bill of Rights. These points laid forward in these documents demonstrated an every man for himself type government.

Fast forward 80 years, and the first Republican president was elected. Argueably the greatest president in american history, he used military strength to keep the country whole and passed laws banning the treatment of other men as animals. How did he do this? He was a Republican president, with a right wing congress, who pressured him to pass laws to uphold our principles. Was he handed money his whole life? No, he started from the bottom, and worked his way up to store owner, businessman, attorney, congressman, and finally president, before he was shot by a southern democrat. His vice president, a democrat, was extremely unpopular and was impeached.

Another 100 years, and a Democrat named John F Kennedy was elected. He looked like the perfect family man.....beautiful wife, two children, a good speaker. However, he was a serial cheater and cheated on his wife nearly every month......it was in his reign that divorce became popular, families were split up, and the Diick and Jane style family of America was lost and gone forever. Other leaders like MLK, who claimed to be a doctor and a reverend, and his vice president LBJ were extremely immoral as well............DEMOCRATS BUILT THAT.

Finally, present day, the liberal policies of the democratic party are not only trying to kill religious freedom (we cant deny selling a gay wedding cake? really? Its my f*cking business, i can sell to whoever the hell i want!), but also undermine the constitution and deny the 1st and 2nd amendments of the bill of rights. Abraham Lincoln once said a house divided cannot stand, but any builder will tell you a house cannot stand with its foundation cut out from under it either.

The poilicies of conservatism and capitalism built up this country, while socialism and stalinism pulled russia down. Please, take into consideration what ive said. We would have rebelions if we raised taxes. We already pay about (personally) $60,000 in taxes per year to this nation, and it is being routed to programs that oppose our faith. (planned parenthood, etc...)


Ted Cruz 2016

 

To draw lines between successful socialistic societies and communist russia, equals drawing lines from the US to nazi germany.

Most people know USA's story, aswell as most other profiled countries.
Your post reeks with subjectivity over objectivity , opposed to how you're presenting the historic material.
I especially like the part where you attempt to place the blame on Kennedy, for increased cases of divorse, lmao.
That being said, I'm not defending your democrats, even if you appear to think so. I am defending the successful form of socialism. Something you have made no arguments about, nor given any signs of knowledge of, except the part that communism is the extreme side of it.
Like I said, if that's your only argument, then we might aswell conclude that USA is fascist, when we're already on that road.

Edit; I'm not going to respond to you anymore. Years will eventually have you wake up from the bubble your parents have surrounded you in, lol. Until then, I'm not gonna spend time trying to de-radicalize a radical.